I just dont get it, you pay for the OS, they monitor you like a hawk and sell that shit. Now they are like we need to make sure they get all these ads too, also we are going to ruin any app that you use, like search or notepad. We will milk this mother dry then claim users dont understand how much it costs to run the company.
If you have a monopoly and need to maximize profits then the question becomes: Why not?! You could extract more money this way, and it’s not like your users would go anywhere else at this point.
That is why it’s so important to fight and break up monopolies, and to limit what these companies can do. Because they have no reason not to squeeze every penny they can get out of you!
Issue is, I don’t think even the current competition is helping them to get better, if they became smaller for some reason they’d just go back to their active sabotage days.
What I’d think would help to actually wither Microsoft’s monopoly in addition of breaking it up is forcing them to open source Windows, thus taking their main leverage on the market. Windows would be a good (not great) OS if it wasn’t for MS and its shareholders trying to monetize it as much as possible, and trying to make all computers like what the Junkman had in the Superhero Team vs. Genocidal Purple Guy Part 3.
This is the norm of what shareholder-driven companies in a situation of monopoly will tend to do. They try to see how much they can abuse their position of dominance on the market to maximize their profits. Microsoft’s primary goal isn’t to make a good user experience, or even a good OS. Their main goal is to milk as much money as possible from its assets for its shareholders. They’ve been playing that game for decades, only backtracking when the consumer backlash is strong enough to threaten their sales or when the government threatens to break them up.
On top of that, Microsoft has a long history of letting arrogant elements of top management take control of projects who will then force their “vision” down the throats of their customers who don’t want any of it. They will only backtrack once the sales numbers become disastrous enough. Then usually the control returns to more competent people and a decent product tends to result from it. Think how Windows Vista lead to Windows 7. And how Windows 8 lead to Windows 10. Or even how the XBox One was originally designed and marketed as some sort of stupid way to watch NFL games on your TV with Kinect controls until they realized they were losing the console war and then started treating it like a gaming console again.
In Windows 11 it saves every text file you open as a new tab, so every time you open a text file you’ll have tabs upon tabs of every previous text file you’ve ever opened.
Here’s a Reddit post with some people talking about how to disable it, how frustrating it is, and even how it’s causing problems by straight up opening the wrong file if it’s named the same as a text file you’ve opened in the past.
Wow finally. I remember when I moved to Notepad++ a decade ago when I still used Windows, to get that behaviour. Being able to close it without losing all the open tabs was a game changer.
Yeah, I noticed it in the new Notepad. Nifty feature. Notepad++ is still my go to for everything. Especially dumping “temporary code” in unsaved tabs, then like 6 months later trying to figure out if any of its still relevant or safe to finally close.
So what’s the deal with vim? I spooled up a vps recently and decided to forgo the gui options, like a real Linux server admin. I have been using nano and it seems to do all I need from a basic text editor in the terminal. I get that vim/emacs meme-bantering but actually why. It accepts texts and stores them in files. What is the actual point/difference?
Not only that. Opening the same file again, opens it in a new tab ffs. I noticed this, when my ssh-config file (which has no file extension and is thus not linked to a program) had like 10 tabs open… Why would someone do that?
Visual Studio is the full IDE, VS Code isn’t. Visual Studio and VS Code are completely different products, even though both carry Visual Studio branding.
What would be missing from VS Code or VS Codium that an IDE needs?
I’m an ex Visual Studio user, now writing all my code in VS Codium. I organize my project tree in VS Codium, I build from it and, like a Visual Studio user, I press F5 to debug, set breakpoints and inspect variables.
And that’s just the default install using the vanilla C/C++ extension it ships with, not some complicated setup that takes any time to get working.
I mean it’s not complicated. If you don’t want to use Windows, your options are:
Pay thousands for a Mac computer that may not have the features you want, and never be able to upgrade or repair it, or
Get a software engineering degree so you can figure out how to install, use and regularly debug Linux. Because even techy people you know that might want to help you don’t know anything about Linux.
I walked my 83 year old dad through a Linux Mint install on his laptop over the phone a few weeks ago when the Windows install shit the bed. All he needs is a browser, he’s good now.
Get out of here with that “software engineering degree” BS.
And this is why it will never be more popular: A community that refuses to acknowledge the shortcomings, and animosity for anyone who questions it or asks for support.
It is easier more than ever to install linux today.
People like to use words like “easy” and “hard” to describe clicking buttons and typing letters into a display. These are the wrong words. The word is “complicated”.
Doesn’t matter if it’s easier, the fact remains that it is complicated and likely always will be.
The process to install Ubuntu vs Windows is pretty much the same.
Create a user, choose a timezone, connect to Wi-Fi or LAN and wait for setup to finish. It is not complicated by any mean.
As I mentioned, most people never install an OS in their life, so they don’t know how to create a boot drive and install an OS.
So the issue isn’t that installing Linux is complicated, it’s that installing an OS on an empty drive is not a thing that the vast majority of pc users has done or will ever do.
So the issue isn’t that installing Linux is complicated, it’s that installing an OS on an empty drive is not a thing that the vast majority of pc users has done
Linux is great until it isn’t. As soon as you venture outside of whatever packages user interfaces offer you, the “degree” analogy applies. For some, the thought of editing a text file to configure an option blows their mind.
Lmfao guess he doesn’t need you to help him setup his email port settings or have any issues with audio drivers or any of the other common issues we see with Linux installs.
Why would a random 83 year old set up his own email port configs? He signs into gmail.com like everyone else, let’s be realistic if we’re gonna talk shit
I worked for an ISP residential tech support for 3 years. Don’t tell me what’s realistic lmfao. I experienced it very, very often. And they sure as fuck couldn’t do it in windows.
We can compare anecdotes if you want, I’ve been in tech twice as long as you were and I can count on one hand the number of people doing their own IMAP setup. That remains the same if you go back to me being a child.
There’s no need to be a dick man, this is a nerd forum for awarding fake internet points. Chill out.
Pay thousands for a Mac computer that may not have the features you want, and never be able to upgrade or repair it, or
M1 Air costs USD $750 where I live.
Get a software engineering degree so you can figure out how to install, use and regularly debug Linux. Because even techy people you know that might want to help you don’t know anything about Linux.
Hyperbole to sell an easily disprovable false narrative. For what?
That MacBook will have 8GB of RAM and 128GB of storage, which is completely useless, not to mention fucking highway robbery when you can buy a Windows laptop for half of that with better specs.
Hyperbole to sell an easily disprovable false narrative.
LOL I’d love to see you prove me wrong. Go on ahead. It’s easy!
That MacBook will have 8GB of RAM and 128GB of storage, which is completely useless, not to mention fucking highway robbery when you can buy a Windows laptop for half of that with better specs.
You said thousands of dollars. They’re not thousands. And yeah, you can get a cheaper machine. And put some flavor of GNU/Linux on that too!
LOL I’d love to see you prove me wrong. Go on ahead. It’s easy!
Niche suppliers normies have never heard of. Can’t find them on retail sites or in stores. Also very expensive.
I know all of these things. I use Linux. I think Linux is better than Windows. I’m just answering the question of why so many people continue to use Windows.
Cost to run the company? They will proudly milk as much money as they can to maximize profits. Having a bigger margin is a point of pride for them. Watch any shareholder meeting. They will publicly brag about it.
Because you could replace the text of this mene with Nvidia drivers or any number of pain in the ass sub systems. Fuck even anti cheat for many games as well. Windows for the most part just works. Search works just fine and 98% of users couldn’t give two fucks about notepad.
I just dont get it, you pay for the OS, they monitor you like a hawk and sell that shit. Now they are like we need to make sure they get all these ads too, also we are going to ruin any app that you use, like search or notepad. We will milk this mother dry then claim users dont understand how much it costs to run the company.
If you have a monopoly and need to maximize profits then the question becomes: Why not?! You could extract more money this way, and it’s not like your users would go anywhere else at this point.
That is why it’s so important to fight and break up monopolies, and to limit what these companies can do. Because they have no reason not to squeeze every penny they can get out of you!
Issue is, I don’t think even the current competition is helping them to get better, if they became smaller for some reason they’d just go back to their active sabotage days.
What I’d think would help to actually wither Microsoft’s monopoly in addition of breaking it up is forcing them to open source Windows, thus taking their main leverage on the market. Windows would be a good (not great) OS if it wasn’t for MS and its shareholders trying to monetize it as much as possible, and trying to make all computers like what the Junkman had in the Superhero Team vs. Genocidal Purple Guy Part 3.
I wish our indolent government would do its job breaking this shit up.
Sad that Windows basically have stronghold in OS market. It’s a hurdle for linux to even hit 5%, and there is no alternatives for generic hardware…
This is the norm of what shareholder-driven companies in a situation of monopoly will tend to do. They try to see how much they can abuse their position of dominance on the market to maximize their profits. Microsoft’s primary goal isn’t to make a good user experience, or even a good OS. Their main goal is to milk as much money as possible from its assets for its shareholders. They’ve been playing that game for decades, only backtracking when the consumer backlash is strong enough to threaten their sales or when the government threatens to break them up.
On top of that, Microsoft has a long history of letting arrogant elements of top management take control of projects who will then force their “vision” down the throats of their customers who don’t want any of it. They will only backtrack once the sales numbers become disastrous enough. Then usually the control returns to more competent people and a decent product tends to result from it. Think how Windows Vista lead to Windows 7. And how Windows 8 lead to Windows 10. Or even how the XBox One was originally designed and marketed as some sort of stupid way to watch NFL games on your TV with Kinect controls until they realized they were losing the console war and then started treating it like a gaming console again.
Pay for the hardware
Pay for the software
Subscribe to your own machine
Get your wallet out, serf. The landlords renting your computer to you need another yacht.
we making it into techo-feudalism with that pattern 🗣️🗣️🗣️
Notepad is horrible now, how tf do you mess that up??
What happened to notepad?
In Windows 11 it saves every text file you open as a new tab, so every time you open a text file you’ll have tabs upon tabs of every previous text file you’ve ever opened.
Here’s a Reddit post with some people talking about how to disable it, how frustrating it is, and even how it’s causing problems by straight up opening the wrong file if it’s named the same as a text file you’ve opened in the past.
Wow finally. I remember when I moved to Notepad++ a decade ago when I still used Windows, to get that behaviour. Being able to close it without losing all the open tabs was a game changer.
Yeah, I noticed it in the new Notepad. Nifty feature. Notepad++ is still my go to for everything. Especially dumping “temporary code” in unsaved tabs, then like 6 months later trying to figure out if any of its still relevant or safe to finally close.
Textadept is also pretty cool, it’s portable and FOSS unlike Notepad++
Virgin Windows users on Reddit: *Crying in a corner instead of looking in settings on their own and make 3(!) mouse clicks*
Chad Linux users on Lemmy: *Editing .conf files in vim*
So what’s the deal with vim? I spooled up a vps recently and decided to forgo the gui options, like a real Linux server admin. I have been using nano and it seems to do all I need from a basic text editor in the terminal. I get that vim/emacs meme-bantering but actually why. It accepts texts and stores them in files. What is the actual point/difference?
Not only that. Opening the same file again, opens it in a new tab ffs. I noticed this, when my ssh-config file (which has no file extension and is thus not linked to a program) had like 10 tabs open… Why would someone do that?
I mean tabs are fine, I guess, but this shit?
This stinks of panic MVP.
Notepad++ was gaining some traction so Microsoft figured they nip that in the bud with a half-hearted attempt?
Microsoft’s competitor to Notepad++ is VS Code.
Notepad++ is a text editor while VS Code is an IDE. They are intended for different use cases.
No, both are source code editors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source-code_editor#Notable_examples
Visual Studio is the full IDE, VS Code isn’t. Visual Studio and VS Code are completely different products, even though both carry Visual Studio branding.
What would be missing from VS Code or VS Codium that an IDE needs?
I’m an ex Visual Studio user, now writing all my code in VS Codium. I organize my project tree in VS Codium, I build from it and, like a Visual Studio user, I press F5 to debug, set breakpoints and inspect variables.
And that’s just the default install using the vanilla C/C++ extension it ships with, not some complicated setup that takes any time to get working.
Snipped from the first question in the FAQ:
More details on the Visual Studio website.
If you disagree with the assessments of both the VS Code developer and Wikipedia, please discuss it there.
VSCode is a telemetry filled delight - easily Microsoft’s best product
It can be reverted in settings. I just did this it was driving me mad. Why have the option for tabs without a close all option.
I mean it’s not complicated. If you don’t want to use Windows, your options are:
Pay thousands for a Mac computer that may not have the features you want, and never be able to upgrade or repair it, or
Get a software engineering degree so you can figure out how to install, use and regularly debug Linux. Because even techy people you know that might want to help you don’t know anything about Linux.
There just aren’t many options for “normies”.
I walked my 83 year old dad through a Linux Mint install on his laptop over the phone a few weeks ago when the Windows install shit the bed. All he needs is a browser, he’s good now.
Get out of here with that “software engineering degree” BS.
And this is why it will never be more popular: A community that refuses to acknowledge the shortcomings, and animosity for anyone who questions it or asks for support.
It is easier more than ever to install linux today.
The issue boils down to the fact that the number of people that never installed an OS is pretty high.
Most people buy their laptop and roll with the OS installed. Microsoft paid a lot to be the default choice and we have the market we have today.
But if you check your email and browse internet, any OS will work.
The strength and weakness of Linux, is that there is many ways to skin a cat. But it can get confusing really fast, even if you are tech savvy.
Habits die hard and Microsoft and Apple were pretty good at capturing the market.
People like to use words like “easy” and “hard” to describe clicking buttons and typing letters into a display. These are the wrong words. The word is “complicated”.
Doesn’t matter if it’s easier, the fact remains that it is complicated and likely always will be.
The process to install Ubuntu vs Windows is pretty much the same.
Create a user, choose a timezone, connect to Wi-Fi or LAN and wait for setup to finish. It is not complicated by any mean.
As I mentioned, most people never install an OS in their life, so they don’t know how to create a boot drive and install an OS.
So the issue isn’t that installing Linux is complicated, it’s that installing an OS on an empty drive is not a thing that the vast majority of pc users has done or will ever do.
It’s both
Have you tried to install Ubuntu recently? It is as straight forward as it is.
It is not a complicated process no matter how you look at it.
I think you’d be better off stating people are too lazy to install Linux.
Just because they proved you completely wrong and millions of others using Linux daily prove you wrong too doesn’t mean they’re bringing “animosity.”
Just accept the L and move on.
Linux is great until it isn’t. As soon as you venture outside of whatever packages user interfaces offer you, the “degree” analogy applies. For some, the thought of editing a text file to configure an option blows their mind.
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Call it what you want, the fact remains and will persist until something changes.
LOL they did no such thing.
Well if you’re going to put it that way, billions of Windows users prove that I’m right daily.
Back at ya.
Lmfao guess he doesn’t need you to help him setup his email port settings or have any issues with audio drivers or any of the other common issues we see with Linux installs.
Why would a random 83 year old set up his own email port configs? He signs into gmail.com like everyone else, let’s be realistic if we’re gonna talk shit
I worked for an ISP residential tech support for 3 years. Don’t tell me what’s realistic lmfao. I experienced it very, very often. And they sure as fuck couldn’t do it in windows.
We can compare anecdotes if you want, I’ve been in tech twice as long as you were and I can count on one hand the number of people doing their own IMAP setup. That remains the same if you go back to me being a child.
There’s no need to be a dick man, this is a nerd forum for awarding fake internet points. Chill out.
Still in tech, 9 years now lol. Again. People do and they run into issue with it. Denying my perspective and acting like it’s invalid is obnoxious.
No, because like 99% of people on this planet, he uses webmail, and I haven’t seen audio fail out of the box on a Linux install in 15 years.
Roflmao lol omg bbq
99% of the planet don’t use webmail. Fair that you haven’t seen one. I’ve read it recently and often though so :shrug:
M1 Air costs USD $750 where I live.
Hyperbole to sell an easily disprovable false narrative. For what?
Calm down and eat your lunch, Helen.
That MacBook will have 8GB of RAM and 128GB of storage, which is completely useless, not to mention fucking highway robbery when you can buy a Windows laptop for half of that with better specs.
LOL I’d love to see you prove me wrong. Go on ahead. It’s easy!
God, debate perverts are annoying.
That is not how it works. You have to proof your claim. If you want to be taken serious at least.
That’s exactly how it works when someone else calls your claim “easily disprovable”.
You said thousands of dollars. They’re not thousands. And yeah, you can get a cheaper machine. And put some flavor of GNU/Linux on that too!
Highest market share ever, these days!
I don’t think you need a CS degree to run through this guide.
Here’s all the “techy people you know that might want to help you don’t know anything about Linux” coming together as a community to share what they know about the distro I linked to.
Stop being hyperbolic.
But they are…
Not pre-installed.
None of those links prove me wrong. Try again.
They do for me!
Once again, here’s one at $750.
Here’s some great laptops with GNU/Linux pre-installed.
Here’s another company!
There are vendors supplying workforce laptops and miniPC’s running MintOS for less than $350 per unit, in bulk!
All of them prove your silly, bogus assertions wrong.
Nah. Don’t have to.
Once again, completely unusable.
Niche suppliers normies have never heard of. Can’t find them on retail sites or in stores. Also very expensive.
I know all of these things. I use Linux. I think Linux is better than Windows. I’m just answering the question of why so many people continue to use Windows.
Cost to run the company? They will proudly milk as much money as they can to maximize profits. Having a bigger margin is a point of pride for them. Watch any shareholder meeting. They will publicly brag about it.
Because you could replace the text of this mene with Nvidia drivers or any number of pain in the ass sub systems. Fuck even anti cheat for many games as well. Windows for the most part just works. Search works just fine and 98% of users couldn’t give two fucks about notepad.
“Monitor you like a hawk” is a pretty extreme exaggeration of the easily disabled telemetry data. Unless you were referring to Edge browser?
I get the point you’re trying to make but they made a free version of windows a while ago. The price for it is the ads.
Well then is it free?
There’s a free version of windows? 😮 Did they just give up because everybody cracks it?
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