• FMT99@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    I mean “hate crime”, I don’t know, but it is ageism. Not to mention this whole boomer vs millennial thing is such an obvious ploy by the corporate media to throw up another distracting infight to prevent us from fighting the real enemy, billionaires CEOs.

    I don’t know about you but I have no special hate in my heart for my parents. Yeah their generation messed some things up but trust me our kids will find things to blame us for 20-30 years from now.

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      9 months ago

      I can’t speak for others but the reason I’ve used boomer as a slur, if you can even call it that, in the past is because they don’t see the fight you mentioned as necessary. You can’t be allies with someone who doesn’t think there’s a problem to be fixed. It would be one thing if we were fighting the same battle in different ways but that’s not what’s happening. They’re actively helping the other side win.

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        9 months ago

        And this is why it’s, in my opinion, correct to call it a slur. When you refer to a certain part of the population, in the context of calling them the enemy, not based on their beliefs or actions but their age, that sounds questionable. Just as it would be if you said the same thing about a racial group, a sexual preference, a religious group, etc.

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          9 months ago

          I would take issue with you saying the word only refers to a specific age group. In my experience it is describing people with a specific set of beliefs about the world. It just so happens the most common factor in whether or not you have those beliefs is how old you are. Not all boomers are “boomers” just as not all Gen Z are progressive or whatever else the stereotype is, but in order to talk about large groups of people you have to make generalized statements. We’re talking about trends not absolute definitions.

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            9 months ago

            This feels a lot like saying “when I say the n-word I don’t mean all black people, just the bad ones” (and yes that word is of course a different level of bad but the principle is the same)

            You can make those arguments without the blatant generalization and denigrating language.

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              9 months ago

              Language is like that. You can read into it what you want to in many cases. If you don’t want to accept what I’m telling you I mean when I say something then that’s fine. Just know at that point you’re giving more weight to your own assumptions than you are to what the speaker intended to convey and that’s the opposite of how listening is supposed to work.

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                9 months ago

                Language is like that, careless use makes your point unclear and may lead people to think you’re a bigot when that’s not your intention. You can blame others for not understanding your inner thinking when you’re make sweeping generalizations but in the end it’s not their responsibility to dig into your psyche.

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                  9 months ago

                  It’s not careless use you’re just trying to be the gatekeeper of which uses are acceptable and which aren’t. Your interpretation isn’t automatically right just because it’s yours.

                  Besides, you’re trying to cast boomers as some marginalized group of people when they’re the wealthiest generation in the richest nation in the history of the world. That’s objectively a dumb position to take.

                  In summary, and in the clearest language I can muster, there is no award for being offended on behalf of the most people so quit being such a whiny little bitch about everything.

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                    9 months ago

                    I don’t think you understand that words have a meaning, defined in a dictionary. You can just decide that your kind of discriminatory language somehow doesn’t count and we should all just magically know what you really mean, but that also echoes the typical defenses that racists and gender bigots use.

                    Bigotry on the basis of race, religion, gender and yes even age is wrong no matter how you try to defend it.

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      9 months ago

      Rare attitude. Americans in particular seem to be obsessed with gen wars.

      The tragic irony of people saying “the boomers had it all, they don’t know how hard we got it” is that they already becoming the old person that says “back in my day….” And they don’t see it.

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        9 months ago

        I really get the idea it’s fueled by the media over there. You see so many American articles about heartless boomers and lazy millennials. Whether it’s just rage bait to sell ads or something more, I don’t know.

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      Contemporary generational labels have arbitrary boundaries and their members would be just as arbitrary. Generational labels applied in an historic context are able to categorize in more meaningful ways around specific events or beliefs that the generation demonstrated. Without that demonstration its the new astrology.