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Is this really about technology? Sounds like it’s really about American renter rights.
Yeah, it’s really more about two massive industries colluding to extract additional income from working Americans. Rental agencies contract with Spectrum, get a cut off the top, and the renters are stuck with a shitty internet service they don’t want. Honestly, renting has never been a great experience for the average American, but it’s been getting worse over time. Rental agencies are starting to cut staff, reduce actual beneficial services offered, force renters into paying for additional junk services they don’t want or need (what the fuck is a $50 a month “beautification fee,” anyway? Nobody ever fucking cleans this place…), and, of course, increase rent every year. And they can do this because…what the fuck else are you going to do? If you’re working class and live in a high cost of living area, you can’t just move, or buy a house. You have to rent. No other options, really. And while you’d think “well, if someone else opens an apartment complex that offers better services, you can just move there.” Sure, and spend 15 grand moving a mile and a half only to have the apartment complex you moved to suffer the same enshittification after 6 months that the first one did.
The US, wow… what a place to live in as the 99%.
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Why are you putting a CC license on your comments?
From what I understand it is some thing for AI, to stop them from harvesting or to poison the data, by having it repeating therefore more likely to show up.
Sounds an awful lot like that thing boomers used to do on Facebook where they would post a message on their wall rescinding Facebook’s rights to the content they post there. I’m sure it’s equally effective.
Sure, the fun begins when it starts spitting out copyright notices
That would require a significant number of people to be doing it, to ‘poison’ the input pool, as it were.
It seems pretty well established at this point that AI training models don’t respect copyright.
I would be extremely extremely surprised if the AI model did anything different with “this comment is protected by CC license so I don’t have the legal right to it” as compared with its normal “this comment is copyright by its owner so I don’t have the legal right to it hahaha sike snork snork snork I absorb” processing mode.
No but if they forget to strip those before training the models, it’s gonna start spitting out licenses everywhere, making it annoying for AI companies.
It’s so easily fixed with a simple regex though, it’s not that useful. But poisoning the data is theoretically possible.
Only if enough people were doing this to constitute an algorithmically-reducible behavior.
If you could get everyone who mentions a specific word or subject to put a CC license in their comment, then an ML model trained on those comments would likely output the license name when that subject was mentioned, but they don’t just randomly insert strings they’ve seen, without context.
That seems stupid
Interesting. Feels like that thing people used to add to FB comments back in the day that did nothing but in the case of AI I could see it maybe doing something. I’ll be looking into it - thanks!
To turn every comment, no matter how on topic, into obnoxious spam.
You know if you want to do something more effective than just putting copyright at the end of your comments you could try creating an adversarial suffix using this technique. It makes any LLM reading your comment begin its response with any specific output you specify (such as outing itself as a language model or calling itself a chicken).
It gives you the code necessary to be able to create it.
There are also other data poisoning techniques you could use just to make your data worthless to the AI but this is the one I thought would be the most funny if any LLMs were lurking on lemmy (I have already seen a few).
Thanks for the link. This was a good read.
That’s a neat idea and I’ve considered it, but would need time to research and test. Time I don’t have, so this is the easiest thing I came up with. If there were a bot, plugin, browser extension, or something that did the necessary modifications and kept up to date with new developments in AI, I’d use it.
I find most landlords if you start pushing for addendums do one of two things: they immediately shut down, which is usually an indicator they’re going to be difficult anyway. Or they don’t care enough and they’ll wave it away just to get you in the door, especially when the clause you are disputing is insignificant and looking for someone else could cost them 5x or more what that little clause was worth anyway because of a missed month.
This is obviously contingent on a lot of things. Do you need to move now? Is it incredibly difficult to find anything and this checks off every other box? Etc. But just something to consider if you have room to abandon ship on a rental you find.
