Context: Chat Control 2.0: EU governments set to approve the end of private messaging and secure encryption

“By making a minor concession EU governments hope to find a majority next week to approve the controversial ‘chat control’ bill. According to the proposed child sexual abuse regulation (CSAR), providers of messengers, e-mail and chat services would be forced to automatically search all private messages and photos for suspicious content and report it to the EU. To find a majority for this unprecedented mass surveillance, the EU Council Presidency proposed Tuesday that the scanners would initially search for previously classified CSAM only, and even less reliable technology to classify unknown imagery or conversations would be reserved to a later stage. The proposed „deal“ will be discussed by ambassadors tomorrow and could be adopted by ministers next week.”

Source: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chat-control-2-0-eu-governments-set-to-approve-the-end-of-private-messaging-and-secure-encryption/

  • whoisearth
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    8 months ago

    Friendly reminder it’s never about consumer rights. It’s about who is in control of the data.

    A question you can all ask yourself. Despite the warts in both who would you rather control your data (you have no choice here. Someone is controlling your data and it is not you)

    A. Google, Amazon, Microsoft, etc.

    B. Government

    You’ll get strong answers either way. Personally I’d rather the government strictly from an accountability perspective but that also warrants governments not electing shitheads which unfortunately the world is leaning towards with these populist right wing politicians gaining favour.

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      8 months ago

      It can be you. It doesn’t have to be Big Corps or Government. It can be federated instances, it can be self-ownership of data, it can be E2E encrypted.

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      A, by a goddamn long shot. If google mistakenly thinks I’ve advocated for a crime against a massive corporation, they’ll remove my account and ban me from their services. If the government mistakenly thinks I’ve advocated for a crime against a massive corporation, they’ll arrest me and ruin my life. Microsoft doesn’t give a shit if you acquired the 1s and 0s that comprise a popular TV show without paying for them. The government will fine you more than the average person will make in their entire life.

      It also depends on where you live. Facebook doesn’t care if you’re gay or trans, if anything that’s valuable monetizable data about you. Iran will straight up fucking kill you.

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        8 months ago

        Tbf in this scenario, google reports you to the police. You get arrested in either scenario.

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      This one is completely about the people who pretend to “care about the children” but coincidentally also sell the software that does the proposed CSAM scanning. It’s a money making-scheme for them. Shit like this makes me lose the last bit of hope I have for democracy (really hard to not put this into quotes by this point … +__+).

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      8 months ago

      The privacy tech is so robust and easily available right now that anyone could spend a few days and replace their everything with privacy focused alternative while still maintaining a solid experience.

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      The solution the EU is headed toward is A and B. That’s what this legislation requires. I don’t envision a future in which there’s a government provided email or chat service.

      I gotta point out that your email and chat providers know everything about you. When I moved, refinanced, changed cell phone providers, I was inundated with garbage mail and phone calls, including strangers who knew where I lived and how much I had refinanced for or what cell phone company I had signed up with. When I started searching for refinancing, sent emails about a medical diagnosis, chatted about the possibility of moving, nothing except online ads from companies that don’t know who I am. Someone’s selling my data, but maybe the reason I trust particular tech companies with my most personal, intimate information is that they’re pretty goddam good stewards of it.