FediTips (@[email protected])
mstdn.social
Content warning: Please don't use Lemmy :( Human rights, oppression

Please don’t put any hate comments against the developers of lemmy or against the person who posted this.

I am also unhappy about what the main lemmy instance is doing.

What are your thoughts?

  • @[email protected]
    1•3 years ago

    I am very sorry, but your follow up comments have nothing to do with your false claim in your summary that the state department lawyers denied genocide is or has taken place. There is nothing convenient about it.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
      4•3 years ago

      The follow up comment clearly shows that the claims of genocide are not credible. Meanwhile, US state department is hardly a neutral actor here. My only point in the original comment was that even they, despite their clear desire to call it a genocide, are not able to do so. You’re working overtime to not understand this.

      • @[email protected]
        1•3 years ago

        My only point in the original comment was that even they, despite their clear desire to call it a genocide, are not able to do so.

        No, your only point in your original comment was that they denied that it was genocide. Now you are saying that you claimed ‘they are not able to claim it is genocide’. This also a lie, because you did not say that. You lied, saying they denied it was genocide. You can go back and read your comment again if you like.

        They say they are unable to prove it is genocide, not that they are unable to claim it is genocide.

        It’s not too hard to understand any of this.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
          3•3 years ago

          I was using language symmetric to the parent comment as a rhetorical tool. US state department very clearly states that there is insufficient evidence for claims of genocide. That’s denying the claim being made.

          They say they are unable to prove it is genocide, not that they are unable to claim it is genocide.

          Not being able to prove it is genocide literally means that they’re unable to claim that it is. It’s absolutely surreal that you keep twisting that into something other than what it is. Claims of genocide need positive proof.

          • @[email protected]
            1•3 years ago

            No they say there is insufficient evidence to prove genocide, I can’t be bothered to repeat myself any further.

            I was using language symmetric to the parent comment as a rhetorical tool.

            Thank you for this, I am going to take this as an admission that your initial statement was fallacious rather than a semantic error.

              • @[email protected]
                1•3 years ago

                here’s what I have:

                 adj.
Containing or based on a fallacy.
adj.
Tending to mislead; deceptive.
Pertaining to, of the nature of, or embodying fallacy; deceptively erroneous or misleading.
                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
                  2•3 years ago

                  There is no fallacy here. US state department states that the evidence to support the claim does not exist. The fallacy is trying to turn that into something that it’s not. We’ve literally gone over this for days, and the fact that you still can’t understand that makes me think that we’re not going to get anywhere. Have a good day.

                  • @[email protected]
                    1•3 years ago

                    The fallacy I refer to is your initial statement as to their denial of genocide. You stated it occurred when no such denial took place. When I say fallacious: I refer to this initial statement that you made as a rhetorical tool - in my view fallaciously.

                    Thank you for remaining patient and civil, also have a good day.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
          3•3 years ago

          You just keep repeating yourself like a broken record here. And you’re right it really shouldn’t be hard for you to understand what I said, yet you choose not to. Claims of genocide without proof are meaningless. Have a good day.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
          1•3 years ago

          In order to say something is happening you have to be able to prove it. This is the only thing that shouldn’t be hard to udnerstand here.