I don’t understand how Israel gets to be so special. I also don’t get how any other nation would accept anything less, especially once the deal with Israel proved it (politically) can be done. Technical feasibility shouldn’t even be in question.
Well, I guess it’s nice that militaries get to “own nothing and be happy” too.
There is a certain group of people in the US that continue to give special treatment to Israel because they believe that helping Israel “restore” itself will more quickly bring the rapture and Armageddon. Interestingly enough this belief tends to include the idea that Jews and Muslims won’t survive the ensuing necessary war.
It’s actually a very telling carve-out, and I have no idea what it’s doing so far down in the article. It should have been front and center.
The only two logical conclusions I can see are:
Israel is so sharp with their negotiation that they spotted and fought for something that it just didn’t occur to anyone else would be something worth worrying about (possible, I guess.)
We already know that Israel is fucked without us, F-35s or no, so there’s no particular reason we would need to separately ensure that their F-35s are fucked without us.
I very much suspect that it’s the second one. Which indicates that the lock-in was an intentional decision, and one that actually would make quite a bit of sense on reflection.
I think it is far more likely that some other country would fall out of our good graces than that the US government might become anti-Israeli-genocide.
(I am not saying you’re wrong as far as the Israeli calculus or that factoring into their decision. Just that, as far as my own calculus, they don’t really have any need to get concerned.)
Biden made some meek complaints about 2000lb bombs being used in dense urban environment. Israel had to put up with a couple of weeks delay on more of them. They signed contract in 2010. Maybe DNC could have chosen Bernie instead of HRC (just kidding).
Oh, hello! I didn’t even notice it was you when I was replying. Good to see you found a way to shoehorn “Biden” and “DNC” and “Hillary” into this totally related topic. You did it real smoothly, too, it totally wasn’t some random hard turn into a rant about US politics and your favorite politicians from the US to talk about. Nice.
Israel has a very strong lobby here because the US is their only source of strength. Spain or France don’t have that kind of lobby because they aren’t entirely dependent on the US for survival.
I don’t understand how Israel gets to be so special. I also don’t get how any other nation would accept anything less, especially once the deal with Israel proved it (politically) can be done. Technical feasibility shouldn’t even be in question.
Well, I guess it’s nice that militaries get to “own nothing and be happy” too.
There is a certain group of people in the US that continue to give special treatment to Israel because they believe that helping Israel “restore” itself will more quickly bring the rapture and Armageddon. Interestingly enough this belief tends to include the idea that Jews and Muslims won’t survive the ensuing necessary war.
It’s actually a very telling carve-out, and I have no idea what it’s doing so far down in the article. It should have been front and center.
The only two logical conclusions I can see are:
I very much suspect that it’s the second one. Which indicates that the lock-in was an intentional decision, and one that actually would make quite a bit of sense on reflection.
The foresight that using F35s for genocide could make some future US politician uppity.
I think it is far more likely that some other country would fall out of our good graces than that the US government might become anti-Israeli-genocide.
(I am not saying you’re wrong as far as the Israeli calculus or that factoring into their decision. Just that, as far as my own calculus, they don’t really have any need to get concerned.)
Biden made some meek complaints about 2000lb bombs being used in dense urban environment. Israel had to put up with a couple of weeks delay on more of them. They signed contract in 2010. Maybe DNC could have chosen Bernie instead of HRC (just kidding).
Oh, hello! I didn’t even notice it was you when I was replying. Good to see you found a way to shoehorn “Biden” and “DNC” and “Hillary” into this totally related topic. You did it real smoothly, too, it totally wasn’t some random hard turn into a rant about US politics and your favorite politicians from the US to talk about. Nice.
Israel has a very strong lobby here because the US is their only source of strength. Spain or France don’t have that kind of lobby because they aren’t entirely dependent on the US for survival.
Plus it has the backing of the Evangelicals, for their own apocalyptic reasons
Very strong lobby and social media messaging operations.