I don’t understand why everyone is saying it’s hypothetical.

Smith sued the Colorado government for the right to put a message on her website. I don’t see what’s “conjured from thin air” about that.

Her motivation for wanting to put the message on her site might have been disingenuous, what with the seemingly fictious story, but the issue was around whether she was allowed to put the message on her site, under the principle of free speech and the right to offer services, regardless if anyone was asking directly for it.

It would be akin to if a gay web developer wanted to a put a message on their site pre-emptively refusing to do work for Christian Bible camps that were known for providing conversation therapy, or a Jewish web developer wanting to pre-emptively put a message on their website to refuse to do work for an all-you-can-eat crab and bacon festival.

Even if they weren’t actually asked to make these things (and even if they made up a story about being asked to make these things), it’s still a tangible issue.

It’s not like before this decision these people would have been allowed to put any messaging they wanted on their website unless someone specifically asked them for them for these services. There was a tangible remedy that was being sought.

This is a really weird narrative some people are trying to push.

The conflict was between Smith and the government, so she sued the government. It could be that her explanation of the motivation is made up, but that’s fairly irrelevant. The question was does she have a right to advertise something on her website about her business.

I also feel like the panic over this is a bit strange. I think a gay web designer, for example, should have every right to say “I won’t make websites for Bible camps that support conversation therapy”, and advertise that on their own website, despite the fact that religion is a protected class.

This ruling, as far as I can tell, secures that right.

The whole point of the trans movement, is recognising that beyond a small number of very specific biological truths, that the majority of gendered experiences are entirely social.

i.e. being viewed as masculine or feminine, is as arbitrary as deciding whether you’re goth or emo or punk

So I guess what I’m saying, is that from your post, I’m sensing that you’re finding that strict societal don’t really resonate with you. You don’t feel especially stereotypically feminine or stereotypically masculine, or perhaps sometimes you feel a bit of both, or some other combination.

And at the tame time, you’re saying “please don’t tell me I’m trans” - and frankly, that makes perfect sense to me, because if the whole problem is rejecting labels in general, why would you want another one?

Not that I know anything, but it seems to me that you might try just letting go of the idea of gender being something that matters to you completely.

Like, personally I’m not punk, or emo, or alt, or goth, or country. Sometimes I listen to these genres, sometimes I don’t. Sometimes I’ll dress and express myself with hints of these genres, sometimes I don’t. Mostly I’m not really any of them.

And if someone says “do you like punk music”, I can say “Yeah sometimes” or “I’m not in the mood”, or “Oh yeah, lets do it”. And if they say “Yeah but you’re not really punk”, I don’t really mind one way or another. I don’t have to be anything really.

I don’t see why you couldn’t approach gender the same way. I don’t see why you have to commit to, or justify your specific interpersonal or social choices. If one day you want to do something that’s viewed as super masculine, cool! if another day you reject certain masculine things, or even the same masculine thing - that’s cool too! And that doesn’t even need to make you “trans”.

Beyond specific medical/biological concerns, most of this stuff is just words, and it’s all made up.

That’s actually surprisingly common.

Definitely - but that’s 15% of the Mets budget. Screwed up as it is, it’s also underfunded, and the result is that Londoners who are most affected by crime - predominantly low-income - will pay for this

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If it’s a small enough sub with a tight knit community, they’d have to shut down the whole sub anyway

I’m probably going to be on both.

It was pretty surprising how easy it was to create an account and a not-to-bad feed. All of the communities I like don’t yet exist on lemmy, but there’s nothing preventing them from starting up, and the structure is very good.

Reddit has already created a permanent scar in it’s user base. This event has seeded a minority of users on lemmy/kbin/whatever. And there will be more again on July 1 when the various 3rd party apps stop working.

Even if reddit just stops there and doesn’t do anymore detrimental things to it’s user base that scar is permanent. There’s enough users on here now to be self-sustaining for a few small communities at least. And anytime in the future that reddit pulls some shit - which given their corporate structure, it looks like they will - more users are going to look for alternatives and many will end up here.

For someone like me - that’ll just mean more time here and less time on reddit, until eventually it’ll be only on here - just like Digg, just like Fark, just like all the other ones.

Man, he’s so professional. He gives answers that I’d expect a very experienced PR person to give, yet he’s just a single-man operation developer.

This sort of thing is quite different technically.

With Inkscape, blender and gimp - the main draw is an extremely complicated UI that produces image files. A social network is just sending text around back and forth.

The beauty here is the activitypub spec. The way it works is like:

ActivityPub Protocol <- Lemmy Backend <- Lemmy Client

Building a replacement backend or client is comparatively trivial. Making a good one would be hard, of course, but a single developer could whip up something that’s technically a lemmy client, or technically a activitypub backend over a weekend.

That decoupled layering, the idea that each bit just does one comparatively simple thing, is intentional.

If lemmy/kbin catch on (which it looks like they are), it will be not long at all before there are a a plethora of tools and clients cross platform.

Yeah I’ve been looking at the w3 spec. It’s interesting. I think there isn’t yet a good explainer page for newbies.

Yeah, I read that before, but I didn’t really understand what that meant.

I think people get way too caught up on technical optimisation issues with a language.

The reason a language, programming or otherwise, catches on is ultimately based on how many people use the language. So the lower the barrier to entry, they more people who will use it. PHP has a pretty low barrier to entry to creating a website (however simple/bad) and it has a lot of cultural momentum. I don’t see PHP going away anytime soon.

This is a great test of the underlying principles of federation.

Maybe you think that the lemmy.ml creator is an unapologetic human-rights hating tankie.

Maybe you think that he’s a visionary and bastion of free-speak.

Maybe you think something in between.

The whole point of a decentralised federated system is that it doesn’t matter.

Okay this federated stuff is really growing on me.

The idea that you can sign up on any server, and still have a feed from many different servers is pretty cool.

If history has taught me anything - I would say that means that kbin will persist forever.

Ha ha, yeah exactly! I was checking out other Lemmy instances. Not clear to me which would be the best home.

I think that’s the case. But I’m new here too, so maybe there is some way to search across instances.

No, but you can subscribe to both communities from your account on Lemmy.ca.

So it’d act like 2 separate communities on your feed.

I’ve been fiddling around with it a bit. I think the way it works is that you sign up to an instance, and log into a specific instance. You can search for communities on other instances - e.g. ifyou search for https://lemmy.ml/c/memes, which is the memes community on the lemmy.ml instance, you can subscribe to it, even from this instance.

The comments do go across. That’s quite good.