So i have a bunch of pc’s/laptops/computers and such that my family members refuse to depart with even though there really bad. so far they mangae to keep 4 bulky computers in total, we do have some new-ish ones but theses ones im talking about need some loving.1 computer is 32 bit and has 2gb of ram, the other 3 have 64-bit and range from 1gb of ram- to 2 and one of which has only 75 space hardrive.
are there any linux distros that might work becasue im a noob who uses windows so im very lost. any tips or suggestions or something would be great.
also if im posting in the wrong plac eplease let me know in the comments.
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I’d suggest Linux mint Debian edition, at least for the 32bit machine. Many distros have stopped supporting 32bit lately.
It should be fairly user friendly.
alright
Puppy Linux is made for old machines and generally just works. You can boot it up on a live USB and see what you think. Lots of flavours to choose from.
that is good to know.
Try mint with Xfce - on 64 bit machines and then go lighter.
alright and are you sure that is the best starter option? also what can i do on linux compared to windows?
- Gaming is less stable overall but it’s exponentially better now thanks to Valve and the Steam Deck driving support. Like seriously, from a cointoss whether it even launches a couple years ago to 74% Gold or Platinum on the top 1000 games on Steam.
- Programming is easier (you can ask your commandline to install all you need at once instead of having to painstakingly individually install and set up requirements or addons to programming languages), but you don’t have access to Visual Studio if you’re working on C# or C++.
- Web browsing is identical, watching movies too. I’ve never had a problem using LibreOffice and OnlyOffice as a replacement for Word and PowerPoint, but I don’t use many complicated features in Word or PowerPoint so your mileage may vary.
- Photoshop, Premiere, etc are a pain to get good replacements for, OBS for recording and DaVinci Resolve for editing is a really powerful pair though.
- I vouch for Mint with XFCE too. It was very fast on my laptop and some of the themes now are pretty. It barely uses any RAM. It has a Windows-style start menu and taskbar.
Just be warned that your family members will probably have (usually solvable) issues if they want to do anything beyond web browsing. It’s a different operating system after all and it works differently in a lot of ways. Definitely recommend looking up some videos about Mint, XFCE, transitioning from Windows to Linux.
best option
Ubuntu is popular and new-user friendly. And xfce is generally lighter on resources. It’s a good choice.
What can I do
Almost everything.
Some proprietary apps you’ve used from windows may not be available, but equivalent ones would be available on linux.
Stuff like browsing the web(provided that you don’t open too many tabs, because you have low ram) and watching movies n all is quite good.
What all things fo you intend to do on it? I think it’ll be easier to check that the things you want are there.It has everything you may want to use - LibreOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird …
Some programs aren’t supported for Linux but you can find replacement. For me it has 100% of tools that I need.
When you go from windows to mint - they feel similar (UI), but some things are different (installing programs, settings…)
It is just solid out of the box experience. You don’t have to customise it to be usable, complete suite of programs and it is stable.
Some of really light distros for old PCs are missing lot of these things but you may need to explore those options if it doesn’t run well.
There’s very little windows can do, which linux can’t also. The difference will be in how, and how easily.
Often the answer is just “install the same program, and just use it like normal”. Other times, you have to go out of your way to get something running using wine.
For this, bottles is a GUI manager that can make life a lot easier.
Something that uses XFCE is a really good starting point for weak hardware. And mint is a good option for someone new to linux. It is based on ubuntu, and there is plenty of info online on how do things on ubuntu.
It also has good default repos, meaning you’ll be able to find and install most software you might need, without having to start fiddling with custom software repos.
I’ve said my peace about distro and desktop environment in another comment, but to answer the piece about what you can do as compared to Windows, Linux can do the vast majority of all your daily tasks. There are a couple of big sticking points, generally.
Microsoft products, i.e. Microsoft Office. There are alternatives available in the Linux space that do a great job and are good enough for probably 95-98% of people, but there are cases where they don’t quuiiiite match up. Formatting PowerPoints, for example. You may save a *.pptx from LibreOffice and a colleague will open it in Microsoft PowerPoint and it doesn’t look the same at all.
The other major software suite that keeps people in Windows is Adobe. Photoshop? Lightroom? Premiere? Not available on Linux. Again, there are alternatives, but they’re never quite as good. I say this as a photographer that runs 100% Linux all the time, I miss my photo editing software! I used Capture One, but the same principle applies. There’s no Linux release, and you can’t get it running on Linux no matter how much you tinker.
The third biggest sticking point is gaming. You can game on Linux. It’s better now than ever. I run AAA brand new releases on my PC, and again I’m 100% Linux. BUT! It does frequently require a little more elbow grease to get working than people are used to, and often times you can never get it to work 100% as well as it would in Windows.
Sorry for the big wall of text. But finally I just want to say, none of this is to dissuade you from putting Linux on those machine. Quite the contrary! I want you to be aware of what the pitfalls may be, so you can look out for them. I’d hate for you to go in expecting everything to be 1:1 with Windows, only for something to not work and it feel like a bad experience in the end.
Anything with Xfce or MATE, such as Mint Xfce or MATE
Lubuntu!
I put Lubuntu on a Chromebook with only 16 GB storage. It’s a great OS for shit systems.
Back when netbooks were all the rage I threw that distro into everything haha
I’ve used Debian on an old netbook with an Intel Atom and onyl 2GB RAM. The experience wasn’t so bad but web browsing was definitely a pain. Video calling and watching YouTube (Firefox) was very sluggish and annoying to deal with. It’s fine for working with documents and watching low resolution videos locally but that’s about it.
I’ve also tried antiX but a lot of the defaults were annoying. If you (or your family members) can deal with it, then it’s probably the best lightweight Linux distro out there.
are there any linux distros that might work becasue im a noob who uses windows so im very lost. any tips or suggestions or something would be great.
In this case, I recommend just leaving your family members to do their own thing. From my experience, it is very hard to manage other people’s Linux issues if you don’t have decent knowledge on it yourself. If they don’t want to upgrade, that’s their problem. Not yours.
those are very low specs for every day distros (meaning usable for the general public), you might get away with linux mint xfce, if it ends up usable on those machine and not lag too much then don’t bother with anything else, otherwise you might have to install lighter stuff like antix or lxle. If none of the above are usable you can always install puppy linux, it can run on a toaster but is not very pleasant to use. note that regardless of distro, surfing the web is going to be a chore due to half of the modern internet being heavy as fuck and hard to run, you might want to look for alternative frontend to websites like piped for youtube, urlebird for tiktok etc.
For a more “friendly flavored” distro, MX Linux is Debian-based and comes with a bunch of quality of life tools
MX Linux seconded. It’s available in 32-bit versions, too.
I haven’t used it on a machine with less than 4GB though, but it runs well on an old Dell laptop from 2009.
There is Tiny Core Linux if you want something really lightweight.
With 1GB of RAM, you will have trouble running a modern web browser without swapping. I would suggest checking if the RAM can be upgraded. You can get older RAM really cheaply. 4GB of RAM and a cheap SSD will improve performance significantly.
I, personally, would suggest Debian 12 especially since they still supply 32 bit ISOs. (Also 64 bit, but that’s kind of a given at this point)
- Debian is rock stable due to testing like crazy
- Adding a lightweight desktop like XFCE would help with not overloading the PC
- If I remember correctly, updates for the next 5 years since it’s a long term support (LTS) release
- I am guessing you mean 75 GB which should still have, at minimum (absolute worst case everything went wrong kind of wrong), 60 GB left for programs and files
Since they provide both 64 and 32 bit ISOs and run the same thing, all support issues can be done exactly the same on all the computers since, I assume, there is no dedicated graphics card (Nvidia, AMD) in any of them.
Here’s a link to the downloads: https://www.debian.org/distrib/
Download from the “complete installation image” area on the left, second section down.
Edit: If you can use a DVD or USB then use the DVD link, but if they can’t then the CD image will also work.
thank you also your guesses are correct and thanks for correcting me here and there.
No problem, I’ve been using Linux for a long while and I fully want to help people get into it without it being some overwhelming change. 😊
One more thing:
Before going forward:
- if they use windows applications (TurboTax or some specifically windows game downloaded from steam or the like) make sure to download appropriate compatibility apps.
- proton for games, wine for apps
- make sure to back up any important files to a USB or some other media before starting so nothing important is lost in case of mistakes
Here’s starting commands to run after an install:
sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y
sudo shutdown now -r
sudo apt update
sudo apt install wine winetricks proton vlc
With that you should get a nice start (will edit if formatting is weird)
Fully agree on Debian, as long as you’re up for a learning curve. In terms of performance it’s fine; I’ve run it on a machine with a 40MHz processor back in the day with no GUI and it worked fine. If your machine can do XFCE then so much the better than that. Just be aware that there’s a bit of learning curve - if you’re unfamiliar, just expect that there’ll be some adjustment period and learning / things not working right while you figure it out stage, and expect to read documentation and have technical challenges involved.
I would also recommend if you do go this route to do small images instead of complete images. “Complete” is for if you expect to have no internet (so have to download everything you might possibly need.) Small is fine in 99% of cases. Installing from the internet is exactly as easy as installing from disk, except that you don’t need to find the disk and you don’t need to download a big honkin’ disk image with 5% of packages you’ll use and 95% which you won’t ever touch. Debian is big.
This answer is getting down voted, but Debian is the answer because it is user friendly and supports 32bit. If you need to seriously bring new life to these machines upgrade the RAM and buy SSDs. Using a lightweight desktop environment like MATE is a good option.
Don’t give users unfamiliar with Linux a window manager or Arch.
There are some distros out there intended for low power machines, but usually you’ll be fine installing whatever distro you want and using a lightweight desktop environment for it. Any distro running a DE like Xfce or LxQt should feel pretty decent on older hardware.
I would be curious to test how smooth OpenBSD runs on there, it still gets new releases for 32-bit hardware.
For 64-bit systems, GhostBSD, Artix Linux or Devuan.
I have experience with low end devices, since I’m a broke Brazilian (currently using a device with 2gb ram as my daily driver), and these are my suggestions:
You face 2 problems, low end hardware and low tech users, so going deep into very lightweight distros will affect usability. I find mxlinux to be a good middle ground of optimized for low end hardware and easy to use. This step is important, because you don’t want people calling you all the time for help
Now, I suggest running the 32bit of mxlinux on all computers with less than 4gb of ram, because it makes a LOT of difference, from a machine unable to browse the internet, to a machine that works nicely. Even if you use the 64 bit version, enabling multi arch and running at least the 32bit browser makes a huge difference.
And another important thing is to use the same distro and gui on all devices, because it helps them and allows them to help each other, instead of calling you all the time. Helps with maintenance too.
since you’re a noob, idk if this will be very helpful to you, but
i used debian with awesomewm on an old pentium 4 from 2004-2005 and it was pretty fast! like a modern low-end computer. but you’d have to configure it to be noob-friendly/have patient users. i don’t mind it cuz i enjoy tinkering, but i imagine it could be very frustrating for other people.
i’d give you my awesomewm config (i configured it to be super minimal, but also familiar, as i was trying to create a desktop environment that could be used on older machines), but unfortunately my desktop no longer has a power supply, so i can’t access it :')
