• FauxLiving@lemmy.world
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    Stealing them is felony grand theft.

    Vandalizing them is a misdemeanor (typically, check your local laws and also don’t do crimes).

    If they were all stolen, it’s an easy PR ‘woe is us, think of the children’ win for Flock.

    If there’s a bunch of social media posts that are showing chopped down flock cameras just laying on the side of the road then it has better optics from the point of view of ‘We don’t want country-wide surveillance networks’.

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    Who’d have thought that warrant-less mass surveillance that treats every citizen like a potential criminal would eventually hit a tipping point where people began to fight back against it?

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      What’s funny is someone at flock is likely seeing this as a business opportunity. “With flock+ we will detect downed cameras and send a technician out to replace them instantly. Subscribe now!”

      Meanwhile, municipalities are less than thrilled about defending throwing money at something literally no taxpayer wants.

      This problem might solve itself really. Let the buisness majors sell the hangman their own nooses.

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        Sadly some people do want flock cameras because they think it’s worth it to have a better chance of catching criminals even if our personal liberties get taken away. It’s the age old freedom vs safety discussion.

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          Maybe a year or so ago, but now those same people are starting to understand the definition of criminal is flexible.

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            I agree that the more popular opinion is changing to more freedom, but most of the older millennials and above that I talk to care more about catching criminals because they are more likely to be influenced by Facebook/Nextdoor posts and the mainstream media.

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        That’s a feature, not a bug.

        The whole point of warrantless mass surveillance where you collect a person’s entire life history from birth to death is to be able to go back through that history at any point they become an inconvenient person, whether because they are protesting or are a whistleblower or anything else that endangers the existing power structures. They can and will use your history to fabricate a “reasonable” narrative to turn you into whatever type of criminal they claim you are.

        This is exactly why they’re pushing the “antifa is an organized terrorist organization” so hard.

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        I watched a video last night. Some guy was banned from a casino. All they had was a blurry surveillance camera photo of him.

        The AI tagged some other guy as him. Cops came and arrested him. Said the man’s ID must be fake, or he used a fake ID last time because there’s no way their high-fallutin AI could be wrong! It was >99% certain!

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        That’s because they want to be the ones doing the surveilling. There’s loads of disgusting threads you can find online about them discussing ways to disable or hide that their devices are recording so they can surreptitiously record others while claiming they’re not. Most often filming vulnerable women.

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      I was almost gonna say something about killing nazis, but…

      nah, not as american

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    Any RAM or storage in those things? That solar panel looks useful.

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      That solar panel looks useful.

      Since I have never gone out in nondescript black clothing at night to destroy these things, I can’t say from firsthand knowledge…

      But yes, yes they are. They make great trickle chargers for large batteries that only get used intermittently. Or string several together and enjoy an ebike battery charger. I have a similarly sized and shaped panel I found somewhere that I use to charge my 18650 bank.

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          Get a high vis jacket over a black polo shirt with an iron-on logo, a face mask, and sunglasses. Park out of sight or bike or walk up. You could probably swap most public hardware things with mesh node guts in broad daylight. Just sayin’. This is not advice.

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    Couple dead pixels from a particularly bright light might well make them unable to do their plate reading job efficiently. Might make for an interesting study.

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      Lasers tend not to be good for camera sensors, I’ve heard.

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        I think you’d need pretty high powered lasers to do sufficient damage. I think a class 3 wouldn’t be enough, or so I’ve heard.

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          I doubt the lenses are glass, which means the solvents in spray paint will be, effectively, impossible to clean off without damaging the lens in the process. I doubt they have a maintenance team with such finesse as opposed to one that just replaces the device, just every other US support service.

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            I’ve suggested paint before, and several people replied that there things have coatings on the lens that resist paint and other chemical attacks.

            It’s almost like flock anticipated that people would be pissed off at them…

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              Its not unreasonable for an anti-crime camera manufacturer to expect criminals to paint cameras. It’s a movie trope. But anyway, sure would be nice to see some compilation of attack attempts to see what sticks

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            These things are usually pretty high up. The camera in my neighborhood are about 15ft / 4.5m up. When one goes down, they have to queue up for a truck to be sent out.

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    Ive thought about getting a stick with a cardboard sign that says fuck flock and putting it right in front of all the cameras around me that i know of

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    I could’ve sworn 2 weeks ago there was an article about people breaking into them to steal the wires and components.