• Devial@discuss.online
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    Taking away her license isn’t a punishment. It’s a measure to protect the other people in traffic.

    How remorseful she is should matter fuck all with respect to revoking her license

  • HubertManne@piefed.social
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    yup. completely legal to kill someone by car unless its ice as they will shoot you dead just for drivng in the same general area as them.

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    Woman ran a stopsign, hit my uncle who was on a scooter. My uncle died, brains splattered all over the road.

    She didn’t even get a ticket.

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    80 years old and doing 70 mph / 115kph in a residential area. What the fuck. Under no circumstances should she have been left with her license. She’s a danger to society.

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    Running into a stationary object that is NOT on the roadway should be an immediate re-test of driving skills. People in the U.S. and elsewhere constantly “forget” that they are driving a 3,000-pound or heavier killing machine. The lives lost is just abhorrent. This woman is getting off easy because of her age is what I see. After her period of probation when she will not be allowed to drive, she should be required to take driving lessons and re-test if she wants her drivers license reinstated. Sounds to me like she can afford it. I hope the surviving family members sue her into oblivion. Killing 4 people not in the roadway with a motor vehicle shows me a lack of respect for the dangers of driving.

  • ViatorOmnium@piefed.social
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    balance the deaths with the other factors of the case, including … and her remorse

    What remorse, she didn’t even plead guilty.

    And I wonder how much the victims being Brazilian impacted the sentence.

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      They were waiting at a bus shelter. She transferred millions of dollars to family members to avoid financial penalties.

      I am confident an economic disparity impacted the sentence.

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      victims being Brazilian impacted the sentence.

      victims being poor impacted the sentence.

      Good lawyers would have ripped a new asshole to the whole justice system.

  • tired_n_bored@lemmy.world
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    Murder is illegal unless committed with a car. In my country we have “vehicle murder” which carries a shorter sentence than a 1st degree voluntary murder but it’s still ≈10 years behind bars. The US should do something similar

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      We do sort of have that. It’s called manslaughter. Under normal circumstances, this woman would have been charged with several counts of manslaughter and would be in prison with her license revoked.

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        She was charged with 4 counts of gross vehicular manslaughter, and she pled guilty; she just isn’t being punished.

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          But she didn’t plead guilty, according to the article. She pleded ‘no-contest’ so she didn’t admit guilt, just stopped defending herself after she heard that she isn’t going to be punished anyway.

          She just walked away after the judge said she can do that without consequences.

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              Pleading guilty would have at least demonstrated some remorse.

              I’d rather forgive someone that said “Sorry, I did something bad, and learn from it” then someone that just first say “I didn’t do it.” and then when informed that they aren’t going to be punished say “Whatever.” and walk away.

              So, she not pleading guilty and still not getting punished, while at fault is more rediculus to me.

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            At her age that would be a life sentence.

            If the actual crime was driving when she’s no longer capable, then killing people, any justice needs to start with no longer driving. Plus, aren’t the people not taking her license also complicit with letting her drive when she’s is no longer capable?

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            Fully agree. Discretion needs to be removed from those who leave this kind of thing unpunished.

            I believe where I live those mandatory sentences are merely guidelines for judges though. Their word is law.

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      no legal definition of “murder” applies to this. if you’re going to preach to the choir, at least don’t insult our intelligence. probably the word you are looking for is “homicide”.

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      The threshold is way higher for revocation. You have to do something absolutely wild for that to happen, such as pull off of a road without a shoulder and into a parking lot while the police are trying to stop you

  • D_C@sh.itjust.works
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    I think I would curate a bulletproof alibi… and then (definitely not😏😏) go and get my revenge in the middle of the night!
    If the justice system lets me down in such a blatant manner then it’s time to (definitely not 😏😏) take matters in to my own hands.

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    My nephew had his truck destroyed while it was parked on the street by some monster in a BMW who was doing 130+ in a 35mph zone.

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    A no-contest plea indicates that while a criminal defendant does not admit guilt, they waive their right to a trial and allow the court to treat them as if they were guilty for the purposes of sentencing.

    Honestly, what the fuck is that? Shouldn’t even be a thing.

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        My point is if you’re going to accept guilty consequences, you shouldn’t be allowed to not admit guilt.

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          I don’t really see that it matters. Not so much that it’s worth tying up the courts with a bunch of unnecessary trials just because some people are too egotistical to admit fault.

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    You don’t understand, walker, cars have more right than you do. It’s their fault for not being born as the advanced race of cars.