Hate to spoil the anti cybertruck band wagon here, but apparently the owner discovered that they were doing something wrong. I think they seated the charger incorrectly, which allowed it to charge for a bit, but then the safety mechanism from the truck turns off the charging.
These trucks and other electric vehicles can charge at this temperature range, but they will have reduced range.
Elon is still a Nazi, and these trucks look horrendous.
i mean standard outlets have live neutral and ground, neutral and ground are ultimately both connected to the true ground in the earth, but neutral is the ground the current optimally flows through, whereas ground is just used for safety to prevent metal casings of devices from silently being connected to live or whatever. dont know how much of that applies to ev chargers but probably not too far off.
Yeah at some point they would combine at least, I think. I’m not certain about US American standards.
Here in Switzerland, and in Germany too, we use the TN-C-S system (terre neutre combiné séparé) at least for any recent buildings.
That would usually mean that you mustn’t combine ground and neutral within your house (behind your breaker box). Otherwise RCCB / GFCI breakers can’t work either obviously.
I could see car chargers being wired up a bit specially, I have no idea about them to be honest, but surely they want to be able to check for ground faults as well.
Between this and the burning 4090 fiasco from a couple of years ago, it seems to me that people who buy expensive things struggle to plug them in all the way for some reason.
Oh damn. My eyes just glazed over that part because the idea of someone who clearly doesn’t know what they’re doing taking apart a charger for a car is so insane.
I know we’re all geniuses here and just being part of the fediverse is proof of that, but the average consumer that bought an incel Camino might be a slightly different demographic.
Must be nice to be able to afford a $19K Camry. I’m just happy that I could afford my 20-year-old $10K 350Z (and only because I had some life insurance money).
You could say that just about anything. If you know what you are doing and can Google stuff you can build fucking rockets with parachutes and what not. Every repair a mechanic does can be sumed up in less than a single page.
Also many of these chargers are installed on off-peak meters so that you can get a few cents per kwh off. In the winter in cold areas like Minnesota peak shaving happens in the middle of the night because many homes are on electric heat.
So if it is cold enough for the electric company to be peak shaving, you may lose several hours of charging through the night
You can purchase electricity at a variable cost. Low demand times have low prices; inverse for both as well. One can automatically disable a charger during high demand times and enable it during low demand times to save money. For a level 2 charger that is used often, it isn’t a bad plan.
However, if there is really high electric demand when you want to charge your car, and you don’t know the above setup is happening, it can be confusing when your car stops charging.
In areas that don’t have variable rates like where I am at it is just a straight discount per kwh no matter when you use the power.
However the power company puts in a separate meter which has this lower electric rate for the things you want on the off-peak service (the charger in this case). That meter has a unit that they can remote control to cut the power whenever they choose.
So when the power company sees that their grid is nearing capacity they start shutting off customers off-peak meters for a couple of hours at a time. This usually happens in the middle of the night in winter when it is really cold, or the mid to late afternoon in the summer when it is really hot.
Traditionally this was for homes with electric heat. The power company would only allow this when you had a second heat source like a furnace. The point being that they are effectively shifting from electric heat to some sort of fossil fuel. A lot of homes from before the 70s/80s had multiple heat sources because fuel shortages forced a lot of homeowners to add electric heat, but they still had oil furnaces they could fall back to.
Hate to spoil the anti cybertruck band wagon here, but apparently the owner discovered that they were doing something wrong. I think they seated the charger incorrectly, which allowed it to charge for a bit, but then the safety mechanism from the truck turns off the charging. These trucks and other electric vehicles can charge at this temperature range, but they will have reduced range.
Elon is still a Nazi, and these trucks look horrendous.
Edit: Facebook link
I’m a little confused what a “NEUTRAL ground” is supposed to be. It seems self-contradictory.
i mean standard outlets have live neutral and ground, neutral and ground are ultimately both connected to the true ground in the earth, but neutral is the ground the current optimally flows through, whereas ground is just used for safety to prevent metal casings of devices from silently being connected to live or whatever. dont know how much of that applies to ev chargers but probably not too far off.
Yeah at some point they would combine at least, I think. I’m not certain about US American standards.
Here in Switzerland, and in Germany too, we use the TN-C-S system (terre neutre combiné séparé) at least for any recent buildings.
That would usually mean that you mustn’t combine ground and neutral within your house (behind your breaker box). Otherwise RCCB / GFCI breakers can’t work either obviously.
I could see car chargers being wired up a bit specially, I have no idea about them to be honest, but surely they want to be able to check for ground faults as well.
Do not question the spicy pixies that live in the walls, the will kill you.
I still think the connector on a 24 amp line shouldn’t be something you need to take apart as a consumer.
I don’t think that’s what this is saying. It seems to be saying it just wasn’t plugged in all the way.
Between this and the burning 4090 fiasco from a couple of years ago, it seems to me that people who buy expensive things struggle to plug them in all the way for some reason.
No, the new 12VHPWR connector is just awfully designed, and it it isn’t only x090 series it affects
Then what do you think is meant by “taken apart” and “put back together”?
Oh damn. My eyes just glazed over that part because the idea of someone who clearly doesn’t know what they’re doing taking apart a charger for a car is so insane.
Ooo I didn’t understand that before, I thought it was not plugged in right. If I’m understanding you correctly, his fix could have been very dangerous
Eh, if you’re careful and know what you’re doing (e.g. Google stuff), it’s effectively screws and copper. Nothing too special about it.
I know we’re all geniuses here and just being part of the fediverse is proof of that, but the average consumer that bought an incel Camino might be a slightly different demographic.
I mean, things go wrong with gas cars too, some people fix it themselves and other people go to shops, how is this any different?
Because the people who bought these cars paid $100k (at least) for them and they drive them around as symbols of technological power and efficiency.
Meanwhile, the rest of us are traveling around in a $19k Toyota Camry that works just fine.
Sure but, traditionally ‘nicer’ doesn’t mean ‘easier to work on’ for cars.
Must be nice to be able to afford a $19K Camry. I’m just happy that I could afford my 20-year-old $10K 350Z (and only because I had some life insurance money).
ICE doesn’t require a lock out/tag out.
Well, if they die, it’s just natural selection to me
Yeah you’re right but still shouldn’t fall on the consumer to do it for a $100K car
You could say that just about anything. If you know what you are doing and can Google stuff you can build fucking rockets with parachutes and what not. Every repair a mechanic does can be sumed up in less than a single page.
Thank you for actually doing some research and getting the facts.
Also many of these chargers are installed on off-peak meters so that you can get a few cents per kwh off. In the winter in cold areas like Minnesota peak shaving happens in the middle of the night because many homes are on electric heat.
So if it is cold enough for the electric company to be peak shaving, you may lose several hours of charging through the night
Could you ELI5 this?
You can purchase electricity at a variable cost. Low demand times have low prices; inverse for both as well. One can automatically disable a charger during high demand times and enable it during low demand times to save money. For a level 2 charger that is used often, it isn’t a bad plan.
However, if there is really high electric demand when you want to charge your car, and you don’t know the above setup is happening, it can be confusing when your car stops charging.
In areas that don’t have variable rates like where I am at it is just a straight discount per kwh no matter when you use the power.
However the power company puts in a separate meter which has this lower electric rate for the things you want on the off-peak service (the charger in this case). That meter has a unit that they can remote control to cut the power whenever they choose.
So when the power company sees that their grid is nearing capacity they start shutting off customers off-peak meters for a couple of hours at a time. This usually happens in the middle of the night in winter when it is really cold, or the mid to late afternoon in the summer when it is really hot.
Traditionally this was for homes with electric heat. The power company would only allow this when you had a second heat source like a furnace. The point being that they are effectively shifting from electric heat to some sort of fossil fuel. A lot of homes from before the 70s/80s had multiple heat sources because fuel shortages forced a lot of homeowners to add electric heat, but they still had oil furnaces they could fall back to.