Like I know not everyone is a political commentator and won’t touch politics for fear of ostracizing their audience.
But sometimes seeing most creators not expressing any shock at these unprecedented times makes me think “damn this seems dystopian”.
I imagine what would the world be like if streaming was available during Hitlers rise.
Would people just be living in their bubble of “thanks for watching, hit like and subscribe, and if you use this code on simplisafe you’ll get 20 percent off!” winky face
Idk if I could do it, never talk about it or taking a stand. Its just too big to ignore. At least imo.
What do you guys think? Also lemmy wanted me to add a picture so here’s a picture of my dog.
It feels weird or upsetting doing anything right now. Everything is political. Everything is woke. Everything is Left vs Right. Everywhere i look someone has an opinion about something, and everyone else is wrong.
I’m so tired of hearing about it all the time. I just want to enjoy what i can from life without someone dissecting what I am or am not doing and tying their political beliefs to it.
Edit: a word.
I don’t like talking politics at work. I imagine most of them don’t either
The few streamers I do watch have addressed it in the past and typically they want their stream to be a place where you can go to escape reality rather than be bombarded with hate and vitriol for the entire time. It’s not like people don’t see it literally everywhere. It’s forcing her face all the time everyday. We need a break honestly sometimes.
I think it you want politics, you listen to politics. I tend to listen to comedy, except I prefer it from people who will also bring up politics since I’m not in it for an escape.
However, I fully understand people who need the escape. One important advice I heard is, if you’re really at your limit and life is getting harder and harder, you have every right to take a time out and join back in when you’re recharged. We’ll need you at your best if it ever gets to the point that folks are having to hide in basements to avoid the gas chambers.
Not weird at all. Not everything has to be political commentary. You could argue that politics has such a huge impact on our lives so it’s unavoidable, but the same is true of food and streamers don’t have to talk about food at all.
Watching streamers does help to temporarily escape from the cruelties of the world so I’d rather not hear about politics then. Many of the streamers I watch have commented on it, but not frequently, some only once after the election results came in. I think they understand people are watching them to get away from politics.
I wouldn’t want my streamer to talk about current politics. I’m there to escape that talk. It’s the same reason I’m not subscribed to any political communities, if I want that news I’ll go to all.
The only steamer whose opinion I trusted was Scoot. Rest in Power, big cat. He didn’t even steam himself, he was just part of YMS.
Eventually it’ll leak in, you can’t escape it. The foot fetish community thought they were safe and then today happened.
I read your comment while a streamer just said the exact same thing. No politics on his stream because entertainment is to relax and not get stressed out.
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
― Upton Sinclair
“It is difficult to get a man to
understandacknowledge something, when his salary depends on his notunderstandingacknowledging it.”A ton of these people know what’s happening, they just don’t want to rock the boat or disrupt the thing they’ve built.
I’m not sure your corrections are necessary. Mr. Sinclair is saying the same thing. He’s acknowledging that cognitive dissonance must be overcome.
Sadly, 99% of people - wherever they live - won’t really do or say anything until it affects them personally.
I refuse to believe 99 out of a hundred people are so broken by capitalism that they won’t help others for the sake of it. I think we are so alienated from eachother and so exhausted from labor that we are rarely in situations where helping others is an option. Further, the ways in which we define help so individualized that the impact of it is minimal. we aren’t in situations where our help is meaningful, we are too exhausted and isolated to make the extra effort, and most of us don’t even consider community action as an option.
People want to help others, they just don’t know how
And it’s going to take a little while for these expected effects to even be felt nationwide. Right now, everything is mostly just talk, unless you happen to interact with some of the understaffed agencies.
Especially if it might hurt their income.
For most Americans, their income is their survival.
Also, I hear all this stuff about everyone but the actual people doing this. Why isn’t anyone holding the Republican politician’s feet to the fire. They’re the only, and I mean only, ones who are able to stop this. They need to step the fuck up.
The people supporting the Republicans doing this believe the Republicans are doing the right thing.
You’ll see an occasional post on social media about someone who voted for them but now regret it… but the vast vast majority continue to support them.
Rich McCormick (R-GA) held a town hall over the weekend, and his constituents definitely tried to hold his feet to the fire. I suspect his peers have learned from his lesson and won’t be holding any constituent outreach until the chaos is safely over.
Wasn’t there another type of meeting like that and all the GOP representatives just didn’t show up or send anyone? Yeah, they won’t show up to have people yell at them.
Then you go to their homes and yell at them from the street.
Sadly, 99% of people - wherever they live - won’t really do or say anything until it affects them personally.
Especially if it might hurt their income.
Well, good governance is making sure the ‘basics’ are taken cared of for everybody (voters want to be safe/happy, and want those who they love/care about to also be safe/happy), and then expanding out from there with policy to “move the ball down the field” of progress. But thats not how we govern currently.
The issue is that some people see ‘everybody’ as just their own little tribe vs everybody else, and others see it as literally everybody else besides themselves.
Then the discussions/debates get down into the mud of how much we owe it to each other to take care of each other, vs just taking care of ourselves, etc.
We, as a species, need to figure out if its “All for One, and One for All” (aka “We the People”), or, “Every Man for Themselves”. Personally, I think we have the potential to be each other’s ‘superpower’ ability, but we are a young race, and have much maturing to do still.
It’s neither… and also both.
We do need to be concerned with ourselves. If we focus too much on others, we lose sight of ourselves and can fall apart. But if we don’t concern ourselves with others as well… well we get America.
It’s about balance.
I would argue that its ok to take care of ourselves first and foremost, but ALSO to not stop caring after we’re done with ourselves. IMO, its both.
… so… like… some sort of balance?
No, more like both 24/7.
What are they supposed to do? Tell their audience to run into the woods and start a protracted people’s war? Get in non-productive arguments with even less-informed chatters?
I imagine what would the world be like if streaming was available during Hitlers rise. Would people just be living in their bubble of “thanks for watching, hit like and subscribe, and if you use this code on simplisafe you’ll get 20 percent off!” winky face
Almost certainly. The majority of people just kept living their normal lives in Hitler’s Germany as well. Until the war at least.
They weren’t their “normal lives”. People were affected by the rule of the nazi party since it very quickly installed a new social order in the country. We shouldn’t think that the move of the country towards violent totalitarianism happened without people noticing.
But just like now, the future wasn’t obvious. If you could have convinced people in 1932 that the nazi party world start WW2, they wouldn’t have voted for it. If you could have convinced them in 1935 that not only will they be anther world war, but their nation would try and almost succeed in exterminating various peoples from their own country, people world have violently rebelled and deposed the nazis, but that wasn’t obvious. It wasn’t obvious even in 1938 - “peace for our time”, eh? So people did grudgingly accepted what was happening while completely misunderstanding the seriousness of the situation.
There is no way around this. It will happen again and again and there is no way to prevent it because this shift from a strong democracy to authoritarianism is so impossible to believe that people will rather go by their preconceptions rather than the evidence in front of them and simply refuse to think something like this can actually happen.
This is why it isn’t reasonable to expect the people to simply take to the streets. We need leadership
You’re right.
They’ll Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933-45 is the best book I’ve read for understanding the rise of reactionary dictatorships.
From the reasons why people buy in to why they look the other way when atrocities are committed.
Times like the ones we are living in often do not feel abnormal for most people. Solzhenitsyn talked about this, getting transported as a Gulag prisoner through a civilian train station, twenty feet away from families pleasantly chatting waiting for their train to go on holiday, having a chance to watch them for an extended time while he was in transit from one hell to a different hell.
In 1953 Mayer interviewed ten male residents of “Kronenberg” (in reality Marburg) to understand how ordinary Germans felt about Nazi Germany.[2][3][4] The town, located in Hesse with a population of 20,000 and a university, was controlled by the United States during the postwar period of occupation.[5] The interviews occurred during Mayer’s term at Frankfurt University’s Institute for Social Research as a visiting professor.[6] All ten were in the lower middle class.[4] The author was not a German speaker and the men did not speak English.[7]
The interviewees had the following occupations: baking, cabinetmaking, clerking at a bank, collecting of bills, police, sales, studying, tailoring, and teaching. Walter L. Dorn of the Saturday Review wrote that the interviewees were from a pro-Nazi bloc that was the “anti-labor, anti-capitalist, and anti-democratic lower middle class”.[5] The tailor had served a prison sentence for setting a synagogue on fire, but the others were never found to have actively attacked Jewish people.[5] Mayer read the official case files of each interviewee.[2]
The author determined that his interviewees had fond memories of the Nazi period and did not see Adolf Hitler as evil, and they perceived themselves as having a high degree of personal freedom during Nazi rule,[8] with the exception of the teacher. Additionally, barring said teacher, the subjects still disliked Jewish people.[5]
Yes it’s simultaneously understandable and disgusting. Not helped by the financial disincentive to avoid alienating people as you say. Reminds me of how much airtime sports get vs the rest of the news of the world. Ostriches gonna ostrich.
You don’t have to say things explicitly, although there’s certainly value in that. Just maintaining an environment where you consistently shut down chud shit says as much as a long winded political rant. Saying vs doing, you know?
If things keep going the way they have been, they might regret not speaking up while they were still able/allowed to. Seems some things are just too big for some people to deal with, till it smacks them in the face one day and they have no choice anymore.
P.S. Very cute dog, by the way!
