• Korhaka@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    1·
    9 minutes ago

    I just store my notes locally. Using QOwnNotes currently as I looked at a list of FOSS options and picked what I liked the look of. Manage my own backups already so just included the notes.

  • stray@pawb.social
    3·
    2 hours ago

    After looking at Notesnook, I don’t really understand the difference. It has features that Google Keep lacks, but if the company were to shut down their servers I would lose anything not stored locally, right? If I delete a file on one device it’s presumably removed from the others upon sync, so couldn’t they remotely delete my files from any connected device if they wanted to?

    I don’t understand encryption in the first place, so this is probably an ignorant question, but can’t the company that runs the software choose to release the encryption keys anyway? My understanding is that encryption only protects my data from interception by a third party.

    Assuming I’m not wrong on those points, isn’t it better to only store files locally, and to share them either on physical media or via a service which won’t store the files long-term? Is the issue of leaked or lost data not inherent in any hosting service?

    Sorry if everything I’m saying is really stupid. I’m not trying to troll or argue in favor of Google services or anything. I just don’t understand how to evaluate any given service’s trustworthiness or safety.

    e: I just thought to check whether Google Keep is encrypted and the internet says it is. Now I extra don’t get it. Very confused.

    • Robust Mirror@aussie.zone
      3·
      2 hours ago

      Regarding encryption, some companies hold the encryption keys, but many, including Notesnook, use end-to-end encryption. This means the encryption happens on your device and the keys are generated from your password and stored locally rather than on the company’s servers.

      In that scenario the company never has access to the keys in the first place, so they wouldn’t be able to release them even if they wanted to.

      Google Keep on the other hand does not use end-to-end encryption for your notes. While it does use encryption to protect data both during transmission and while stored on its servers, Google retains the ability to access the content of your notes. This means that although your data is safeguarded against external threats, Google’s internal systems can still access your information.

  • irishPotato@sh.itjust.works
    21·
    3 hours ago

    I’ve never used a proper note taking app, but recently started using Tana (Startup, free-to-use with some limitations after giving a credit card and cancelling during a two week trial).

    It’s not open source and it only supports full HTML bulleted list or a heavily proprietary JSON format (which is kinda useless outside Tana) exports. Also most of the paid features are AI BS which I don’t mind missing out on, but there are file-size limits on the free version.

    However, I’m finding the UX and features so far amazing! It’s got easy relationships and a tagging hierarchy systems to which you can add fields and it supports a whole bunch of view options and query stuff. You can scroll through this 46 min YT video to get a feel for it!

    • hikaru755@lemmy.world
      2·
      2 hours ago

      Same boat here, recently discovered tana and its whole model is amazing. It’s fixing most of the things that bothered me a lot in Obsidian and Notion, respectively. I don’t want to go back to a service where I don’t have file-based control over my own data though, so now I’m seriously considering building something on my own that takes the mental model of tana, but implements it local-first based on regular files like Obsidian

  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
    7·
    10 hours ago

    What’s everyone’s goto app for sharing notes with others? I’m looking for something to share grocery lists and whatnot with my SO, and I want as little friction as possible.

    I have some self-hosted services, but I didn’t like NextCloud notes and one or two others I’ve tried. It doesn’t need to be fancy, but I would very much like checkboxes that I can… check. I don’t need users, and honestly, no user accounts could be super nice, just attach a URL and go for it.

    So yeah, slight preference for self-hostable services, but I’m fine with anything, provided it’s reasonably privacy friendly (nobody else needs to know the quantity or size of our sex toys lol).

    • Marighost@lemm.ee
      7·
      7 hours ago

      And with Obsidian I still own my files, which are just in markdown and can be read by literally any other program.

  • belastend@slrpnk.net
    2·
    9 hours ago

    I found no replacement for notion that uses this block structure. I love it, but notion sucks so much aaaaaaassss. I wanna move, but every export feature breaks something in my structure and i hate it :(

      • something_random_tho@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        9 hours ago

        Unlike every other note app I’ve ever used, you don’t need to organize things manually or manage an organizational hierarchy (like folders, etc). That’s where I always fall over in other apps, eventually. Organization happens automatically in Logseq.

        It gives you a new, date-stamped journal entry everyday, and you jot down notes in that. You can link to other pages just by adding a hashtag or using 2 square brackets around some text. Each link/hashtag is automatically given its own page, and if you visit it, you’ll see all your mentions of this page, neatly organized in a chronological order by the date. So think about daily work on a project/goal, or anything around a specific topic, all of it is automatically organized for you.

        Under the hood, all the links form a graph and Logseq is backed by a graph database, so it visualizes this graph for you and gives you some powerful querying tools on top of it too.

  • The Pantser@lemmy.world
    8·
    14 hours ago

    Google wants my shopping list and honey do lists that’s shared between my wife and I? Ok enjoy, wanna come help paint my office?

    • SpaceCowboy
      1·
      6 hours ago

      Yeah and google already knows what groceries I buy if I use a discount card anyway.

  • Lucy :3@feddit.org
    17·
    17 hours ago

    I chose Nextcloud Notes because I already have it anyway, and it’s good enough for me.

    • fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
      21·
      17 hours ago

      Just a friendly reminder that if you use an external nextcloud, that it is most likely unencrypted. The recommendations in the post body (or my own, like using https://cryptpad.fr/) are probably a better choice if you are not self hosting nextcloud yourself.

      However if you are self hosting it, it should be fine 👍 KIM these are just recommendations :)

  • Coldmoon@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    10·
    16 hours ago

    I like Joplin, and I’ll use Standard Notes as soon as I don’t have to pay extra, I’m already paying Proton.

  • DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world
    1·
    10 hours ago

    I have a Synology NAS which has the DS Note app which gives you self-hosted cloud notes on mobile. It’s not the best app but it’s better than google

    • aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee
      1·
      3 hours ago

      It’s just markdown rather than anything structured, but hedgedoc (and its centralized cousin hackmd) are pretty good.

    • LWD@lemm.ee
      2·
      8 hours ago

      Why not Cryptpad?

      They took some decent software and added collaboration features on top

      • hydration9806@lemmy.ml
        3·
        12 hours ago

        How are their android apps though? As far as I’m concerned, that is the difference between a word processor and a note application

  • stray@pawb.social
    3·
    13 hours ago

    Can someone please explain what is meant by being a few clicks away from notes being public or deleted?

    • unhrpetby@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      10·
      13 hours ago

      Probably referring to the fact that, since a company hosts your notes, the notes are at their mercy.

      They could delete them or release them. Accidentally or on purpose.

    • CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      3·
      13 hours ago

      My guess they mean that you or someone on the app side can either purposely or accidentally make your notes public or delete them.

  • peanuts4life@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    4·
    15 hours ago

    Is this really true about Keep? I mean, I know it’s a Google product, but is it really that insecure? I’ve never heard much negative stuff about it.

    • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl
      1·
      2 hours ago

      Your notes are (or at least were 4 years ago when I last used it) stored in plaintext on your gmail under the notes tag. You don’t hear negative stuff about it because 99% of people don’t use notes for sensitive info, or even things they care about. It is also not a high profile app like messaging apps. It is just something everyone assumes is completely fine.