Libs: best I can do is going 2% slower.
*proceeds to install a bigger engine so the next guy can drive 150% faster*
@driving_crooner @yogthos But not this decade.
Also “good” cops.
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libs are not to the left of anything https://orgrad.wordpress.com/articles/liberalism-the-two-faced-tyranny-of-wealth/
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First sentence from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism :
Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, the right to private property and equality before the law.
Second paragraph from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_property :
Private property is foundational to capitalism, an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit. As a legal concept, private property is defined and enforced by a country’s political system.
This is in stark contrast to the first sentence from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism :
Socialism is an economic and political philosophy encompassing diverse economic and social systems characterised by social ownership of the means of production, as opposed to private ownership.
What you call “liberal” and what you call “conservative” are both liberal.
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Liberalism is a conservative ideology, yes. It’s the ideology of capitalism and western imperialism.
Leftism is the political realm of anti-capitalists. In a political dichotomy, liberalism stands on the right with other capitalist ideologies. Leftists stand opposed to them both. Liberalism is the ideology of billionaires, of strike breaking, of economic prosperity for the wealthy being the measuring stick of how successful a society is.
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What absurdly hollow and self serving definitions. You might as well say “liberalism is defined as being good”
You’re quite literally arguing that liberalism isn’t liberalism because conservatism/neoliberalism exists.
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Considering your original comment is gone, meaning I can’t even refer to what you said nor to my own response in its context, and that you basically instantly went to ad hominem attacks calling me uneducated, merely for what was either misinterpreting your original comment or disagreeing with it, I can only assume you’re not having this discussion out of good faith, so let’s end this here.
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That’s not how things work. It doesn’t matter whether there is something worse out there or not. Each ideology has to be judged on its own terms. What you’re suggesting is a logical fallacy.
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You managed to make a self referential comment in your confusion I see.
You seem to be lost. We obviously aren’t going to leave the socialist space we have created for ourselves.
So is red lemmy just a porn instance like redtube or why pick red when you’re not even slightly left wing?
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No, if your account has been allowed to stay on your instance, it holds no value to me regardless of whatever content is on it.
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Redtube and other porn sites starting with red.
Liberals are definitely part of the problem population
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Liberals aren’t leftists
Liberalism, at its core, is an ideology of emancipation that historically sought to dismantle oppressive hierarchies and champion freedom and equality for all. While some argue that liberalism centers on private property and has been co-opted to justify systems like chattel slavery, labor exploitation, and enclosure, this reflects a distortion of liberalism’s original emancipatory intent. True liberalism—like anarchism—opposes the concentration of power that limits individual freedom, whether by monarchs, states, or capitalists. Though the liberal tradition has been manipulated to defend private property at the expense of broader freedoms, its true essence aligns with rejecting systems of exploitation and inequality. Similarly, leftist movements rooted in the fight against oppression are fundamentally incompatible with being anti-freedom, illiberal, authoritarian, or reactionary. Leftism, when consistent with its ideals, seeks to expand liberty and dismantle all hierarchies that restrict universal freedom.
Nobody is free until everyone is.
I highly recommend reading Losurdo - Liberalism, a counter-history. It debunks this myth that liberalism was about emancipation for all.
You’ve gotten liberalism confused with anarchism.
If I were more conspiracy-minded, I’d say they were purposely being counterproductive and driving away the only people who could conceivably be converted to their cause.
In reality, some people are just assholes.
I’m utterly confused: how do you define “liberal”, and why do you think “they” are trying to drive “them” away by criticizing liberalism as a whole?
hello blueAnon
