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    Sleeping in a car that you own.

    I think there should be restrictions on where to park for this, but in general people found sleeping in cars should be protected by the law against theft and harassment.

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      Restrictions on where you can park

      Nah fuck that noise. This is how you let them corral you into slums.

      Park where you want. Out front of parliament, the prime minister’s house, on the street out front a billionaires house, wherever. If they don’t like it, them they should fix it.

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        Well, I mean, someone’s evil ex shouldn’t park in front of their house. And people should not park for a nap in a handicap spot. And not in the driving portion of a road, not in the breakdown lane of a major highway, not on anyone’s lawn.

        But yeah, basically any place where parking is allowed, sleeping while parked should be allowed and protected.

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          All of those places already have laws preventing those. Don’t need a special one for no sleep in car in those instances

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            It is. It is a good place to park. That’s not what is being discussed.

            Having a place to live is an unmitigable human need. Having a car is not. A car left too long on public land should become a shelter for OTHERS.

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              I think you might have missed something in your zeal, which is fine. We need more passion about such things. Just directed the right way.

              But the point being made before your comment was that anyone should be allowed to sleep -at least in their own- car, which you seem to agree with. And any public parking places where a car can sleep should be fine for a human to also sleep within said car, which you also seem to agree with.

              This isn’t about having a car or not, and its not really about sleeping in a car you find, it’s about how it’s used if it is owned by the person who wants to use it that’s being discussed. So if someone already owns a car and wants or needs to live out of it, we can agree that’s ok (everyone involved in this thread is agreeing here). And if there’s a place that is appropriate for cars to be whether anyone is in them or not, that place should be fine with people sleeping as well. (Pretty sure everyone is agreeing with that, too)

              So, everyone agrees, yay! No need to condescend when everyone agrees with you :)

              If you want to expand the topic to shelter wherever you find it, that’s a great conversation to have. It’s just not actually the one being had.

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      Sleeping anywhere. It should be illegal to wake somebody up, unless there’s reason to believe they require medical intervention.

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        Waking someone up being illegal is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard

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          It is illegal to wake up children who are napping in childcare. Sleeping is a fundamental need, and waking somebody is akin to grabbing their sandwich and throwing it on the ground.

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            Waking up an adult is really different from waking up a kid. It should only be illegal if it’s being done repeatedly and purposely to someone who’s just sleeping and not at the detriment of anyone else. (Unless they asked them too)

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              I mean sure there are specific instances where waking somebody makes sense. On transit if you know their stop or the end of the line. If they are in danger. If they are covered in vomit or if they wet themselves. But otherwise, you can’t leave it to law enforcement to make humane decisions so don’t give them the choice.

              Just imagine like a really nice town and an old retired guy who fell asleep on a park bench with a good book. Not in danger, not bothering anyone, don’t wake him.

              The same dignity applies to a junkie who is passed out on the lawn. This could be his only quality sleep in the past 20 hours. You don’t know if somebody asleep has narcolepsy. You don’t know how much they need it. But they do need it or they’d be awake.

              Again it’s a need not a want. Deprivation of sleep is a torture technique. Police officers are using it legally without repercussion right now. I’m saying, it should be considered a form of assault and/or harassment under the law. It is an act of violence. And it’s not right.

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                I mean, in the examples you gave it would be hard to tell the difference between them sleeping and having a medical emergency. If I saw some junkie looking dude unconscious on his lawn I would probably check on him. If you fall asleep in a public place it shouldn’t be expected of other people to not wake you.

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        Agreed. Hope you got room in your bed cuz I’m joining you tonight.

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      I don’t think it’s illegal, but rather where you park can make it illegal.

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        In the US, it depends on the State or municipality. I’ve slept in my car plenty of times while traveling, although it was often in parking garages and out of sight, so maybe I just got lucky. It will really depend on how uptight the town or store manager is. I’ve heard that RVs are generally welcome at Walmarts, so I’d like to heard the logic on why RV are ok to sleep in but not cars.