/s (putting this up front just in case)

Clearly at this point the only answer is a 0 state solution. Everyone shit in the pool so we’re shutting it down, everyone out.

Quite inconceivable at this point than any solution exists that satisfies the apparently mutually exclusive…

I) “right to return”. A large part of the Palestinian cause is the right to repossess their familys historic land inside modern Israel

Ii) Israeli security. Israel already considered the 1967 borders indefensible even more so given miliary action initiated by neighbours in 1948, 56, 63, 67 and so on.

Any two state solution is enormously fragile even if it does exist. Unimaginable that Israel wouldn’t take parts of the land saying that without it their security is untenable. Unimaginable that extremist groups within Palestine wouldn’t use it as an opportunity to build up forces and launch attacks at Israel given they’re ideologically opposed to any Jewish state, even a reduced one.

The solution “probably” is that things have to get so terrible and the rest of the world so upset at it carrying on that some sort of secular UN guarded state is created encompassing the whole region.

Either that or Israel’s going to divide and kill the Palestinians until 2 generations from now younger folk in the West, who don’t remember any of this, consider the whole region to be Israel. And the “Palestinians” if they’re heard from at all, are a stateless minority group, relegated to slums and living on the street.

It’s called “right of return” and transforms Israel from a Jewish apartheid state into a pluralistic democracy, so the settler lobby would never allow it.

The big problem is that while there used to be a relatively clean line aggressive (and highly illegal) Isreali settlers and those who organize them have purposefully worked to destroy any clear separation in an effort to make a two state solution impossible.

The isreali government has had many different forms and drives since founding - this is by far the worst form where displacement and genocide is openly embraced - but even under prior more tolerant government there’s always been a militant genocidal faction of the population that have indepently worked to establish illegal settlements.

The question of where to draw the line has been purposefully made as difficult as possible by people who are opposed to a line ever being drawn.

The first proposal for separate Jewish and Arab states in the territory was made by the British Peel Commission report in 1937.[3] In 1947, the United Nations General Assembly adopted a partition plan for Palestine, leading to the 1948 Palestine war.[4][5] As a result, Israel was established on the area the UN had proposed for the Jewish state, as well as almost 60% of the area proposed for the Arab state. Israel took control of West Jerusalem, which was meant to be part of an international zone. Jordan took control of East Jerusalem and what became known as the West Bank, annexing it the following year. The territory which became the Gaza Strip was occupied by Egypt but never annexed. Since the 1967 Six-Day War, both the West Bank (including East Jerusalem) and Gaza Strip have been militarily occupied by Israel, becoming known as the Palestinian territories.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-state_solution

Basically from the beginning until 2014, that has been the basis of every proposal.

There was the original 1947 UN plan for the partition of Palestine, for one. You can read in that article about which groups accepted and rejected it.

Palestinian state is never happening… Discussions around it is just a circle jerk to provide cover for Israel to finish the genocide.

Never again 🤡

I thought when Britian originally gave Palestine to the Jews (who made it Israel), the Muslims were offered a state where they got some of the land, and the Jews got some, with each getting half of Jerusalem, but they were unable to come to an offer that both sides would agree to.

Israel tried to leave them mostly alone and what is now is the result, there will no longer be a “Palestine” this time and maybe it will finally bring some peace. Maybe the Iranian government, wich is behind 9/10 terrorist organizations in middle east and some in Africa and Asia will be finally put in its place as well.

The terrorists want to kill all Jews and not just Israel, Israel is just the closest target and the only Jewish majority state.