• YourPrivatHater@ani.social
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    4 months ago

    The entire party is a Russian proxy. Same with the German right wing.

    Same goes for the left wing in France and BSW (left wing hardcore SED clone) in Germany.

    Fuck extremism! They will run our continent into the wall and just because they profit from it. Both sides are paid by China and Russia to destroy our Unity!

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      BSW is no SED-Clone. BSW is a personal cult for Sahra Wagenknecht very populistic, pro workers ( which are left positions) but also pro putin and anti migration (which are all but left positions).

      Also, Die Linke (left wing party) has no ties to Russia since Wagenknecht and her peers left.

      And stop that “BoTh SiDeS” BS. It has no merit and is a false narrative.

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        Sorry to bring it to you but bsw is still left, its called redfash or tankie. And yes both sides extremism leads to authoritarian shitholes.

        Oh and BSW being a SED clone is regarding Wagenknecht being a SED politician and her very close ties into the Kremlin.

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          Honestly, this is why using only a left-right axis to describe politics is inadequate. If the term wasn’t prestressed, BSW would be literally National Socialist (but please don’t use that term, because, you know, Hitler, and she’s far from that).

          Oh and BSW being a SED clone is regarding Wagenknecht being a SED politician and her very close ties into the Kremlin.

          That’s oversimplifying if I’ve ever seen oversimplifying. To the point of disinformation. Wagenknecht wasn’t allowed to study because she clashed with the regime, was accused of a hunger strike during military training and joined SED *half a year before the Wall fell with the intention of reforming it. And licking Putin’s boots is not enough to be an SED clone.

          Dude, get your facts straight or shut it.

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            4 months ago

            Again, you need to learn politics, if you think national socialist means left you really need to take a history and a politics course.

            And as i said, SED and BSW are Authoritarian leftists, AFD is authoritarian right wing. Both of them can be considered as a version of faschism.

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              Lol. I never said National Socialist was left, I said BSW is not left. It is not considered left in the german political landscape (except by right wing nutjobs like AfD).

              I got my political knowledge straight, you’re making stuff up.

              BSW has too many positions that are not considered left (their stance towards migration alone is all but left). And where are it’s authoritarian positions?

              You’re throwing around a lot of terms that don’t mean what you think they mean.

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                4 months ago

                People like you are why such extremism can root freely. You want to avoid calling them left because you are left yourself and believe they aren’t. They absolutely are. And you just don’t accept reality.

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                    4 months ago

                    Bro you just ignore arguments, also both of our arguments is that something is or isn’t Left in a political sense. You don’t support your claims with arguments either, probably because we are both right depending on who we ask.

                    The most important takeaway however is that BSW is undeniably a hardcore authoritarian party and mostly a east Germany phenomenon.

                    If its left or right will be seen next election, depending on where they take seat in the Bundestag, since they are a break away from the Left party, they will probably sit left from the view of the podium. The core problem we are at, is that nither left or right in common use are sufficiently defined to make a perfect point her.

                    If we’d take the Horseshoe theory again, BSW would be so far down left that its just “center” extremism but radical center is just not what they actually are.

                    Another takeaway is that they are absolutely a threat to democracy, just as the AFD is, and that they both suck putin dong.