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To be fair, men making decisions for women sounds pretty biblical to me.
Except for that one hippie guy allowing a women to touch his garment unsolicited. /s
These are the kinds of people who Trump will replace regular civil servants with.
Once elected, he plans to use schedule F for the first time to replace millions of civil servants in the USA with people who are blindly loyal to Trump.
Project 2025 is a serious threat to the USA.
Its going to be up to us, the civilians, to get Project 2025 and what it entails in front of moderates and centrists. Its up to use to point out each fascists agenda and go into detail about how that plays out in reality using examples. Its this fight or a guerilla one when we’re all under the iron fist of their loving god’s theocracy.
Yeah, it’s going to be option 2.
A defeatist attitude is a fast-track to that outcome.
It’s pragmatic, not defeatest.
What’s terrifying is that the people responsible for it aren’t in prison for sedition and treason. It’s literally a playbook on overthrowing the government.
That means the people responsible for protecting the country and our constitution are complicit.
All of these dudes look like they’d be uncomfortable to be alone with.
Pretty sure these guys also run the Blacks for Trump twitter page
Let the mansplaining begin.
One (or more) definitely has a hard drive hidden under the floor boards
None of them have ever made a woman cum, I guarantee it
I’m sure the Biblical Womanhood Council has lively debates on the subject.
“The female orgasm is a myth” vs “The female orgasm is a sin”
“If God wanted sex to last more than two minutes he wouldn’t have made me so sensitive.”
2 minutes is enough if you know what you’re doing
They look like extras in The Handmaids Tale.
The bible says woman can’t lead and are just to follow. It makes sense then that the council would be all men
No, the Bible is used to hold women down by these “Christians”.
In actuality it mostly contradicts itself, or says that men and women are equal.
The first evidence people usually cite is 1 Corinthians 11-16. This is the part that talks about women must be silent. However, it says the in the very same passage that they can pray and prophecise in the church. It also says women must remain covered. There are not many even far-right American churches where this is followed. Because we looked at that part and said “huh, Paul is writing to the culture he lives in here and we need to view it through that lens, rather than as actual instructions”.
Indeed the same man that supposedly wrote “Women must remain silent in church” also wrote letters extolling the virtues of female leadership of his early Christian church.
And in Galatians 3:28 he says “There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.”
The culture at the time was patriarchal and women had no rights, but Jesus always preached the antithesis of this, and if Christians were honest about what Christ believed the world would be a much much better place.
Tell me the world isn’t going completely insane one more goddamned time…
You say that like this is a recent development for organized religion.
Not at all, it’s just that… dunno, they kept their heads down until relatively recently, it seemed. Now they’re going berserk trying to protect Wholesome Values™… And it’s not just them, knee-jerks are going off like fireworks in general… This’ll only get worse before it gets any better…
Maybe you just weren’t paying attention before, because Christianity has been a major driving force for patriarchy and gender inequality for millenia, literally thousands of years. It’s actually only gotten the tiniest bit better in the last 60 or so.
Just said they seemed to have kept their heads down, which tracks with what you’re saying, too. You can’t possibly mean that the ebullience with which they’re now coming out of the woodwork is “better…”
I guess I’m just looking at it from a different scale. The oppression of women (and every other person not a cis straight male) has been so much worse for all of human history and has only recently—relatively speaking—been pushed back the smallest little bit. These people have always been here and they’ve been fighting that progress every step of the way. The right never stopped fighting to overturn Roe v Wade, I heard it my whole life. Just because they lost ground doesn’t mean they stopped pushing. If there’s woodwork that they’re coming out of, you must have put it up around yourself and now you’re seeing what the rest of us have been dealing with the whole time.
You are right in that I tried to keep well and far away from any form of organised religion for pretty much my entire life, yes.
However, the resurgence which I’ve mentioned seems, to me at least, to have started once the Feminist and LGBTQIA+ movements gained enough mass to be able to significantly influence the policy-making areas of society. At least from personal experience, the Church (speaking primarily about Orthodox and various Catholic denominations, which are more prevalent in our area) mostly kept out of your business as long as you didn’t “shout it out” too loudly and kept out of theirs, so to speak - sure, a lot of people have always muttered stuff under their breath when faced with the reality of things, but I honestly believe that most people aligned with said organisations were in a sort of denial about these aspects and chose not to interact with them, in a way.
In addition, people in our area seemed to pragmatically drift away from the cismale-centric view of organised religions, anyway. Domestic violence and sexual abuse have still been fairly prevalent, not going to deny that, but they seemed to stem from how the men have been raised more aggressively on principle around these parts, rather than any concrete religious foundation. People mostly accepted that men and women are essentially equal from, as I’ve said, a pragmatic standpoint, as men and women have pretty much always worked side-by-side here. May be a result of the fairly agrarian and subsequent “Communist”/“Socialist” tendencies which have been prevalent up until relatively recently - couldn’t exactly deny that women are as capable as men when they were openly and constantly doing mostly the same things and just as well.
But as soon as the aforementioned actionable progressive mass had been reached, the counter-action started. Again, not saying it’s ever been significantly better just because the Church kept its mouth shut so far, but it’s definitely getting worse than it has been in, say, the past two or three decades - case in point, we didn’t see Advisory Councils on Biblical Womanhood (Jesus Christ…) being established, because, I believe, they didn’t think they should have taken things seriously enough to do it until now. And while we’re not seeing such councils popping up around here, we are seeing the Church going berserk and shoving its way into politics in a much more active and aggressive manner than the passive influence they were convinced they had - which they did, in a way, but nowhere near what they now want.
This may just be a difference in what levels we’re analysing, as I see this recent uptick, even if present on a relatively smaller timescale, is indicative of a fresh sort of panic, which I believe is and will continue to be more aggressive and thus more dangerous than just ignoring the problem and hoping it’ll go away by praying. It’s a ‘knowing there’s a sleeping bear in the nearby caves’ vs. ‘waking it up by making too much noise’ situation (I’m all for the noise in this case, just to be clear).
the world
Nah, just the US
Oh, no, believe you me, it’s global… I’m at the far end of Europe and Right Wing nutsos and religious zealots are goin’ crazy over here, too…
Definitely not just the US. Some places have turned worse but some have never even been “this good”. The world is a fucked up place
This kind of stuff is not normal around the world. Most of the world is not perfect but a lot more reasonable. Luckilly its mainly a thing in extremist cultures
Advisory council on dry-dickedness.
What? Do all the alter boys have dry-mouth?
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I mean… Religion is no place for a woman who wants to have a voice
“It’s a place for women to be on their knees.” - Christians
Clowns
I guess it’s this https://cbmw.org/
I checked staff, board and council. First two seemed to be all men, council had some women in it. Less than half but surprisingly many.
The mission of The Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood is to set forth the teachings of the Bible about the complementary differences between men and women, created equally in the image of God, because these teachings are essential for obedience to Scripture and for the health of the family and the church.
created equally
Hmm…
Somehow that’s worse
Agreed