Yeps. One of my electives at uni was the history of the US constitution law for non-legal majors. I had to take 2 history classes for my degree and I thought it would be an interesting subject. Not only read it also had it read to me by my professor. He was a retired JAG officer and militant ACLU supporter.
I guess we need to know what people consider long. The full document is longer than the Declaration of Independence , which I know a lot better. I can’t remember having to read the Constitution in school, just the preamble and a couple of amendments. This doesn’t excuse my ignorance though. Thanks for providing the whole document.
I think compared to most governments on the planet, the US Federal government was supposed to be a tiny one. That’s why it’s not supposed to be allowed to do virtually anything it does today.
The workarounds to grow the federal government are kinda like you’re stuck on a desert island and all you have is coconuts, so you build your house out of coconuts, you build your car with coconuts, you build a wife with coconuts, you build your kids with coconuts, a whole society built out of coconuts. It’s like "This is impressive, but what the hell made you think this was the intent of the assignment?
I just looked it up and it seems that the German constitution has more than 350 pages.
But the first 20 sections contain the most important and almost unchangeable foundaries.
To be fair, Germany has a loooong and mega history, and they’d have been thorough out of necessity. No idea what’s in there, but I assume there’s a lot that addresses all the parts and histories of Germany before it was unified. It would’ve been a nightmare drafting that thing up initially.
We couldn’t possibly agree on how the terminology in the original translates into plain language. We can’t agree on what it means in the first place, even the most obvious plainly worded things.
I’m a reader. I’ve never read the constitution though, fiction only. I also think it’s too old, can’t get into the classics as much as more contemporary lit.
Reading it and going over the contents is also a part of standard US high school curriculum. It’s a graduation requirement. At least, it was when I graduated high school in California in the 90’s.
Yeah I kind of doubt that was a real requirement then and not something your social studies teacher mandated. It’s definitely not the case now or anywhere outside of the state afaik
We did similar in primary school in Australia. A big portion of the seventh grade is learning about the Westminster style of government, state and federal roles, and the courts. We even did our own class parliament session each week to debate and try pass different levels of law. We were able to get Grade 7s a specific hang out area at the school cafe passed based on our lower house (classroom) sittings, then our senate (Prefects and the primary school principal) passing it.
Damn, that is pretty short. I’m not American but I had always just automatically assumed it would have to be hundreds of pages. No clue why, of course, just some subconscious bias.
The constitution is about 19 pages long. Here’s a pdf
Did you read the entire thing?
I doubt that, but OK.
Yeps. One of my electives at uni was the history of the US constitution law for non-legal majors. I had to take 2 history classes for my degree and I thought it would be an interesting subject. Not only read it also had it read to me by my professor. He was a retired JAG officer and militant ACLU supporter.
I guess we need to know what people consider long. The full document is longer than the Declaration of Independence , which I know a lot better. I can’t remember having to read the Constitution in school, just the preamble and a couple of amendments. This doesn’t excuse my ignorance though. Thanks for providing the whole document.
Compared to most constitutions on the planet, it’s considered a short one.
I think compared to most governments on the planet, the US Federal government was supposed to be a tiny one. That’s why it’s not supposed to be allowed to do virtually anything it does today.
The workarounds to grow the federal government are kinda like you’re stuck on a desert island and all you have is coconuts, so you build your house out of coconuts, you build your car with coconuts, you build a wife with coconuts, you build your kids with coconuts, a whole society built out of coconuts. It’s like "This is impressive, but what the hell made you think this was the intent of the assignment?
I vote we skip any more discussion about how we’re going to be using coconuts on this island.
A coconut wife sounds amazing, especially if they were to start buzzing with life one day.
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I just looked it up and it seems that the German constitution has more than 350 pages. But the first 20 sections contain the most important and almost unchangeable foundaries.
To be fair, Germany has a loooong and mega history, and they’d have been thorough out of necessity. No idea what’s in there, but I assume there’s a lot that addresses all the parts and histories of Germany before it was unified. It would’ve been a nightmare drafting that thing up initially.
You can read a translation if you like:
https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_gg/
My five year old’s Fancy Nancy books are more than 19 pages.
Less words per page though, and less confusing language.
True, we need to rewrite the US constitution as a kids picture book with appropriate language so that the 54% of American adults with a reading comprehension below 6th grade can keep up.
That’s a startling number. It goes far towards explaining some of the responses my comments get.
That… answers a lot of questions
We couldn’t possibly agree on how the terminology in the original translates into plain language. We can’t agree on what it means in the first place, even the most obvious plainly worded things.
Not that I’m trying to refute this in any way, but why include 16 and 17 year olds in adults?
For a book, remarkably short.
For a news article, quite long.
For a legal document, who reads those anyways?
Compare it to the constitution of the Soviet Union.
19 pages isn’t really a lot, , but this guy doesn’t strike me as much of a reader.
I’m a reader. I’ve never read the constitution though, fiction only. I also think it’s too old, can’t get into the classics as much as more contemporary lit.
Reading it and going over the contents is also a part of standard US high school curriculum. It’s a graduation requirement. At least, it was when I graduated high school in California in the 90’s.
Yeah I kind of doubt that was a real requirement then and not something your social studies teacher mandated. It’s definitely not the case now or anywhere outside of the state afaik
Proof @ link:
https://www.cde.ca.gov/pd/ca/hs/hssconstitutionday.asp#:~:text=California%20high%20school%20students%20are,Government%20course%20include%20the%20Constitution.
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It’s 17 pages… Not that crazy, really. https://constitutioncenter.org/media/files/constitution.pdf
I more meant that they wanted you to learn it. Feels practically subversive these days.
We did similar in primary school in Australia. A big portion of the seventh grade is learning about the Westminster style of government, state and federal roles, and the courts. We even did our own class parliament session each week to debate and try pass different levels of law. We were able to get Grade 7s a specific hang out area at the school cafe passed based on our lower house (classroom) sittings, then our senate (Prefects and the primary school principal) passing it.
Constitution or clinical studies, MAGA people will take a devout view, that they read online at MAGA.
Damn, that is pretty short. I’m not American but I had always just automatically assumed it would have to be hundreds of pages. No clue why, of course, just some subconscious bias.