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As many of you know, I posted recently about my experiences and outlook on Kagi, the paid search engine. It's gotten some positive press recently, ironically right after I made my blog post about why I no longer liked or trusted it. This blog post was called "Why I Lost Faith In Kagi" and was a pretty simple quick collection of my thoughts that I primarily wrote so it'd be easier to find again later to link to people when discussing Kagi versus making it a fedi thread I couldn't search for easily later. Across the four social media platforms I linked this blog post on, I'd say it got a total of about 40 likes and few reblogs.
https://d-shoot.net/kagi.html
I say this because this morning I woke up to an email from Kagi's CEO, Vlad, who had seen the post and was upset about it. I have an email address listed on my blog (which is why I didn't bother removing it from these logs), which is what he sent his emails to. I am posting this entire email chain in this thread and will briefly post my thoughts about it, but I feel like it's something that needs to be seen. Please take note of the subject of the email as well (EDIT: It got cropped out sorry, the subject is "Fatih [sic] can not be lost"). Also, since the alt text would get extremely long with some of the transcripts, I've provided a text dump of the emails here for screen reader users and will offer a more abridged description in the alt text: https://d-shoot.net/files/kagiemails.txt
E: And I don’t meant this post as a ‘just fucking google it’ or ‘educate yourself’ (well a little bit) but more to show there is more to this accusation of JAQing than just some way to shut you down. The method is used by bad faith actors a lot, so it is a pattern of behavior a lot of people react negatively too. So, assuming you are acting in good faith, it is a good way to learn why people are reacting to you like you are a bit of an bad faith actor. And if you are a bad faith actor, I only wasted a little bit of my time typing this out so nothing really lost.
Short for Just Asking Questions. Where people ask loaded questions that act as a veneer to their actual statements. If you want to accuse them of the fact they are talking shit, they’ll say they’re “just skeptical” and “asking questions”
I mean yeah, it kind of is. Unfortunately when folks impersonate the clueless in bad faith the people who legitimately don’t know stuff tend to get caught in the crossfire, and I say this as someone who is frequently clueless.
Best advice I can offer is to develop a thick skin about it and be willing to put the work in if someone helps you find the keywords to look up. The more of the background you can find yourself the better equipped you’ll be to ask specific questions that are less likely to be suspected for JAQing us around.
Nothing else, in all of the English language or otherwise! Oh, woe betide, the fates served upon them this fateful day, to be so choiceless in their utterance, cast afloat in all creation!
The Thing in question has an element of intent that the user doesn’t exhibit in this thread, or any of their history. Simply asking questions isn’t JAQing off.
maybe they caught a ban cause of their weird fucking vibes and cause they couldn’t help but thread a bunch of low-effort garbage into a moderator announcement
You can always look at the modlog. Only bans the user in question has are almost a month old from a conservative community for not being conservative and a furry community for saying “furries 🤢.”
yeah the anti-furry shit would’ve been enough to catch a ban from here, and I’m kinda sorry you’re ok with it
but I’m gonna be honest, you seem exhausting and your only contribution to this instance has been assigning our admins homework. I think it’s best you move on
(And then I glanced at your post history and noticed a trend of JAQing off so I now doubt whether you’re sincere in asking)
yyyyeaahhhhh
Im not sure what JAQing is.
I appreciate your response thanks
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions first hit (on google ;) ) which has a good explanation.
E: And I don’t meant this post as a ‘just fucking google it’ or ‘educate yourself’ (well a little bit) but more to show there is more to this accusation of JAQing than just some way to shut you down. The method is used by bad faith actors a lot, so it is a pattern of behavior a lot of people react negatively too. So, assuming you are acting in good faith, it is a good way to learn why people are reacting to you like you are a bit of an bad faith actor. And if you are a bad faith actor, I only wasted a little bit of my time typing this out so nothing really lost.
I call that doing a “Tucker Carlson.”
I had a weird brainfart a while back when I realized that Carlson reminds me of this guy.
The bad faith ‘bugs that think are offensive’ debate guy from starship troopers. He even wears a bow tie!
He does jaq off pretty constantly.
Short for Just Asking Questions. Where people ask loaded questions that act as a veneer to their actual statements. If you want to accuse them of the fact they are talking shit, they’ll say they’re “just skeptical” and “asking questions”
Just asking questions here, but do you think a wolverine would beat a mechabadger?
yes, I’ve seen it
that wasnt my intention. It was simply a phrase I hadn’t heard
Ironically, by saying that you’re just doing The Thing again
Catch 22. Nothing else I can say 🤷♀️
I mean yeah, it kind of is. Unfortunately when folks impersonate the clueless in bad faith the people who legitimately don’t know stuff tend to get caught in the crossfire, and I say this as someone who is frequently clueless.
Best advice I can offer is to develop a thick skin about it and be willing to put the work in if someone helps you find the keywords to look up. The more of the background you can find yourself the better equipped you’ll be to ask specific questions that are less likely to be suspected for JAQing us around.
true.
Nothing else, in all of the English language or otherwise! Oh, woe betide, the fates served upon them this fateful day, to be so choiceless in their utterance, cast afloat in all creation!
The Thing in question has an element of intent that the user doesn’t exhibit in this thread, or any of their history. Simply asking questions isn’t JAQing off.
Simply asking questions would be SAQing off, which is totally different.
maybe they caught a ban cause of their weird fucking vibes and cause they couldn’t help but thread a bunch of low-effort garbage into a moderator announcement
You can always look at the modlog. Only bans the user in question has are almost a month old from a conservative community for not being conservative and a furry community for saying “furries 🤢.”
yeah the anti-furry shit would’ve been enough to catch a ban from here, and I’m kinda sorry you’re ok with it
but I’m gonna be honest, you seem exhausting and your only contribution to this instance has been assigning our admins homework. I think it’s best you move on
we really don’t care