New York hush-money trial still on course for 15 April start but ruling in classified documents case has prosecutors concerned

New York hush-money trial still on course for 15 April start but ruling in classified documents case has prosecutors concerned

Donald Trump faced mounting trouble this week in his legal universe, with judges overseeing two of Trump’s legal cases refusing to accept his attempts to delay and toss the prosecution – and the former president doubling down on efforts to discredit his opponents.

The judge overseeing Trump’s criminal trial in New York expanded a gag order on Monday, which had originally banned Donald Trump from making public statements about court staff, trial witnesses or the families of any counsel or staff member on the case. The narrower gag order did not prohibit Trump from making statements about family members of the judge, and after Judge Juan Merchan issued it, the former president took to social media to attack the judge’s daughter.

“His Daughter,” wrote Trump on the social media platform Truth Social, “is a Rabid Trump Hater,” identifying her by name.

The new gag order would now prevent him from making statements like that – but Trump’s abusive commentary about her, and others involved with his trial has probably already prompted threats and harassment.

    • takeda@lemmy.world
      24·
      8 months ago

      Well, that’s understandable, as that judge behaves like part of his defense team.

      But speaking of bad words, he attacked pretty much every politician when he was in office, except for putin. You won’t find him saying anything bad about him.

  • brvslvrnst@lemmy.ml
    563·
    8 months ago

    Might be easier to actually nail him with something instead of having N ongoing trials, but I understand “courts take time for a reason.”

    Just feels like it’s getting down to the wire with him.

    • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.netEnglish
      871·
      8 months ago

      Honestly. The amount of shit that they are tolerating just to nail him is crazy

      Imagine someone else not being able to make bail or threatening families.

      No bail? Jail.

      Threaten families? Jail right away

      • NounsAndWords@lemmy.world
        541·
        8 months ago

        They’re afraid of the ramifications of putting him in jail. I’m afraid of the ramifications of not…

        • jkrtn@lemmy.ml
          61·
          8 months ago

          What ramifications? Contempt of court, go to jail. They can appeal the contempt charges as they wish, how does that make any difference to the ongoing case? Dudes get fined or jailed on contempt for far less than this.

          • BreakDecks@lemmy.mlEnglish
            41·
            8 months ago

            Are you familiar with who Donald Trump is or what his followers are known to do?

            • kent_ehEnglish
              7·
              8 months ago

              or what his followers are known to do?

              So threatening violence against court officials or their families is now an acceptable tactic to get your way?

              • DogWater@lemmy.world
                2·
                8 months ago

                That’s not his point, his point is you have to allow some bullshit to prevent violence against innocent people like judge’s daughters. This “above all reproach” strategy by the judges and prosecutors working against trump means that when he’s finally dealt a verdict there’s nothing anyone can say about the people involved and the proceedings. They literally went soft as fuck on him and he still got convicted, ideally.

                I’m not sure I personally believe that is the best strategy because it makes the system look weak to the people it’s supposed to be trying and makes maga base look like it has Mafia like power. That’s fucking silly to give them that de facto legitimatcy imo but I can see where they are coming from.

                I think that nutting up and just throwing him in jail for contempt until his trials are over would be the better course. Let them maggots whine and piss and moan and throw them in jail when they protest too hard and try to bust him out of jail.

                There is an entire power dynamic at play here between the “high road” people who won’t “stoop to that level” getting continually fucked by the ones who break the rules and never go to jail over it. They have an entire playbook of shit Dems won’t do because they know their base will still vote for them even if they are publicly shit heads, hell that’s even more of a reason to vote for them to the most far right extremists.

                Why don’t Dems pack the courts? Why don’t Dems throw him in jail for contempt? Why don’t Dems move quicker in the literal treason case over selling state secrets? They need to play hardball and they won’t do it. They won’t get dirty and fight back.

              • BreakDecks@lemmy.mlEnglish
                1·
                8 months ago

                No, I don’t think it’s acceptable, but there are definitely concerns that jailing Trump will result in terrorism. I understand the desire to minimize that possibility while preserving justice as much as possible. We’re reaching an impasse though…

            • Optional@lemmy.world
              5·
              8 months ago

              I’m familiar with “no one is above the law” and how that is ever-more being made a fucking joke by these people who don’t want to upset the fascists.

      • Optional@lemmy.world
        15·
        8 months ago

        Admitting, on live television, to firing a Federal Investigator to avoid being investigated? Believe it or not, Jail.

      • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
        71·
        8 months ago

        I think your thinking of the bond, which isn’t criminal. Without bond he doesn’t go to jail, the courts can just liquidate during the appeal if he didn’t post bond. (Which could be catastrophic to him if they start selling properties)

    • exanime@lemmy.today
      111·
      8 months ago

      Just feels like it’s getting down to the wire with him.

      Until it does and then they’ll move the goal post to give him special treatment and a cushy path out of trouble

      He’ll never see any consequences for the plethora of crimes … Best we can hope for is for him to lose the election, another Jan 6th style event and then, hopefully, dementia will take over enough to move on to the next Republican lunatic

      • Optional@lemmy.world
        41·
        8 months ago

        Member that time trump called on the “second amendment people” to maybe “take a closer look” at a particular person?

        Member that? Hey. Y’know. What, he said it.

    • Neato@ttrpg.networkEnglish
      101·
      8 months ago

      The entire strategy is to give absolutely no excuse for an appeal. Not only do they not want an overturn on appeal but don’t want the added delay. It’s why they are allowing so much shit.

  • Sterile_Technique@lemmy.worldEnglish
    23·
    8 months ago

    If we staple a wind turbine to his face we’ll have an unlimited source of energy, what with all the “blows” he gets from his legal bullshit.

    Not consequences, mind you; just blows.

  • diffusive@lemmy.world
    15·
    8 months ago

    Often in Mafia trials there is one or more people that collaborate with justice. The family has to be protected and secured because otherwise Mafia would kill them.

    I am saying this for no particular reason except for informing on the degenerate tactics of the Mafia

  • Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world
    6110·
    8 months ago

    Democrats when you want the bodily autonomy to put what drugs you want in your own body: “Time to die by execution by cop mother fuckers!”

    Democrats when you attempt a insurrection: “hey special guy, are you allergic to these padded kid gloves we warmed up for ya?”