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New York hush-money trial still on course for 15 April start but ruling in classified documents case has prosecutors concerned
Donald Trump faced mounting trouble this week in his legal universe, with judges overseeing two of Trump’s legal cases refusing to accept his attempts to delay and toss the prosecution – and the former president doubling down on efforts to discredit his opponents.
The judge overseeing Trump’s criminal trial in New York expanded a gag order on Monday, which had originally banned Donald Trump from making public statements about court staff, trial witnesses or the families of any counsel or staff member on the case. The narrower gag order did not prohibit Trump from making statements about family members of the judge, and after Judge Juan Merchan issued it, the former president took to social media to attack the judge’s daughter.
“His Daughter,” wrote Trump on the social media platform Truth Social, “is a Rabid Trump Hater,” identifying her by name.
The new gag order would now prevent him from making statements like that – but Trump’s abusive commentary about her, and others involved with his trial has probably already prompted threats and harassment.
Honestly. The amount of shit that they are tolerating just to nail him is crazy
Imagine someone else not being able to make bail or threatening families.
No bail? Jail.
Threaten families? Jail right away
They’re afraid of the ramifications of putting him in jail. I’m afraid of the ramifications of not…
At this point, I think we should call his and Magas bluff
What ramifications? Contempt of court, go to jail. They can appeal the contempt charges as they wish, how does that make any difference to the ongoing case? Dudes get fined or jailed on contempt for far less than this.
Are you familiar with who Donald Trump is or what his followers are known to do?
So threatening violence against court officials or their families is now an acceptable tactic to get your way?
That’s not his point, his point is you have to allow some bullshit to prevent violence against innocent people like judge’s daughters. This “above all reproach” strategy by the judges and prosecutors working against trump means that when he’s finally dealt a verdict there’s nothing anyone can say about the people involved and the proceedings. They literally went soft as fuck on him and he still got convicted, ideally.
I’m not sure I personally believe that is the best strategy because it makes the system look weak to the people it’s supposed to be trying and makes maga base look like it has Mafia like power. That’s fucking silly to give them that de facto legitimatcy imo but I can see where they are coming from.
I think that nutting up and just throwing him in jail for contempt until his trials are over would be the better course. Let them maggots whine and piss and moan and throw them in jail when they protest too hard and try to bust him out of jail.
There is an entire power dynamic at play here between the “high road” people who won’t “stoop to that level” getting continually fucked by the ones who break the rules and never go to jail over it. They have an entire playbook of shit Dems won’t do because they know their base will still vote for them even if they are publicly shit heads, hell that’s even more of a reason to vote for them to the most far right extremists.
Why don’t Dems pack the courts? Why don’t Dems throw him in jail for contempt? Why don’t Dems move quicker in the literal treason case over selling state secrets? They need to play hardball and they won’t do it. They won’t get dirty and fight back.
No, I don’t think it’s acceptable, but there are definitely concerns that jailing Trump will result in terrorism. I understand the desire to minimize that possibility while preserving justice as much as possible. We’re reaching an impasse though…
I’m familiar with “no one is above the law” and how that is ever-more being made a fucking joke by these people who don’t want to upset the fascists.
Admitting, on live television, to firing a Federal Investigator to avoid being investigated? Believe it or not, Jail.
I think your thinking of the bond, which isn’t criminal. Without bond he doesn’t go to jail, the courts can just liquidate during the appeal if he didn’t post bond. (Which could be catastrophic to him if they start selling properties)
Driving too fast: Jail. Too slow: Jail.