• smoothbrain coldtakes
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    7 months ago

    It’s almost like the NDP say what they want to do and then do it.

    Remind me why we split the vote between them and the Liberals again?

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      7 months ago

      This is BCs provincial NDP, which may or may not be ideologically in sync with the federal NDP. Its a difficult thing to determine as they campaign on different issues typically, but as BCs liberal party was its acting conservative party i tend to look at our parties as shifted one to the right. It tends to follow a lot closer to the federal voting patterns that way.

      Edit: that being said i did vote for them

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      7 months ago

      Well, in Ontario it’s because “Rae Days” or something like that.

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        7 months ago

        None of the candidates are strong either.

        Most people my age don’t even know what the fuck Rae Days were. We didn’t live through it, but we’re living through a housing and affordability crisis and the only people talking about doing anything about it are the NDP.

        Unfortunately we don’t go out and vote, which is why the lowest voter turnout in history enabled the Ford victory.

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        7 months ago

        Always love that argument

        NDP did one thing I didn’t like in the 90s and now I’ll never vote for them

        Conservatives do shitty things over and over but I’ll give them a chance … again

        Liberals do shitty things over and over but I’ll give them a chance … again

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          It wasn’t even a bad thing

          They just think the Ontario NDP caused a global recession

          Ask someone would you rather have less hours in the short term or no job in the long term and they will side with Bobby

          Ask someone if the government should spend less and protect jobs or fire people and spend a bunch of money to fill their positions and they will side with Bobby

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            Maybe they’ve noticed over time what actually happens when the conservatives, liberals or ndp are in charge during bad worldwide times. You definitely want a Harper not a Trudeau for conditions of the last ten years. yknow, a fucking economist.

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              Harper isn’t a good example, he destroyed our economy

              Our deficit and military still haven’t recovered from him

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                  The only year he didn’t have a deficit was his last and he’s the only PM to go under 1% GDP military spending

                  Sources

                  Economy

                  Military

                  But feel free to keep making things up

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      NDP are just as crooked as the Conservative and Liberal parties, they have just never had the a chance to stretch their legs.

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    7 months ago

    Makes sense. Despite what Conservatives across the country have been saying. Provincial governments are the best positioned to actually solve housing related problems.

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      Federal governments have the ability to build a massive amount of social housing and related infrastructure in conjunction with provincial and municipal governments.

      They are just ideologically opposed to it.

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        The trouble is “in conjunction” the federal government has seemed willing to help fund this sort of thing for years. But provincial governments have no interest in doing anything.

        This is why the federal government has started bypassing the provinces to work directly with municipalities.

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          Yes, true, and as I mentioned the cons and libs are ideologically opposed to risking the uppermid property equity of their main supporters.

          However cf. the housing co-op initiatives of the 70’s and 80’s and other initiatives that don’t require the provinces.

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      7 months ago

      Only if you pretend the problem is lack of housing not insane immigration. Maybe importing carpenters instead of truckers and counter staff would help.

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    7 months ago

    The NDP is doing the best job in the country for housing affordability but I don’t see any metric in the article that quantifies it.

    In itself this statement is incorrect.

    These policies are making housing more affordable in real time for British Columbians.

    The issue with any regional housing affordability improvement is the fact that it is regional and the benefits are not limited to locals. If BC magically halved our housing prices tomorrow it would return to high prices within months with the induced demand. I don’t see a solution where affordability is not collectively fixed in this country.

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    2 min to read

    Oh, I guess that really was the whole thing then. I’m sympathetic to the premise that BC might be doing better than Ontario recently in housing policy, but it’s unclear how much cherry-picking was involved in finding that one data point. Considering how far prices had risen out West it’s going take more than that to convince me that they’re “beating it back.”

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      Prices out west were beyond ridiculous far before the current NDP government.

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        Yeah that was sort of my point. To say anything meaningful about it you have to look at the longer-term context, not just the latest single housing starts number.

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        7 months ago

        The housing market in Swift fucking Current, Saskatchewan, is comparable in real dollars to St Petersburg, Florida, just outside Miama.