Timothy Murray lost his father earlier this year and had been asking his principal for counseling when she called in the police

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    Data from Brownsville ISD seen by The Observer showed its officers made 3,102 student arrests between May 2021 and Nov. 2023. Nearly 60% of those were on felony charges and 76 of those kids were in elementary school.

    what the fuck is going on over there

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      High-speed school-to-prison pipeline. Because inmates=free labour and prisons are for-profit. Gotta get 'em kidz institutionalized as early as possible!

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          I suspect that being born from the wrong vagina is a crime for those people.

          It just explains so many things: from their criminalization of abortion whilst taking State support away from poor single mothers to emprisioning kids who don’t have a mommy and daddy with the right connections or who can afford the kind of lawyer who would extract a massive compensations from everybody involved in putting a kid in prision like this.

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              Then you read the Bible and like almost all the references to the rich are negative and like where the heck do people even get this crap from.

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                Hippie socialist Jesus > Supply-Side Republican/Conservative Jesus

                Any educated and intelligent person should see that the prosperity gospel is just greed promotion disguised as religious edicts.

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                  I’ve run audio for maybe a dozen Prosperity gospel events over the course of my career… Those people are some of the scummiest people I’ve ever met in rl. The “preachers” usually have a group of thugs acting as security that will run interference for anyone that questions what they’re preaching. I’ve seen people get literally dragged out and then heard, after the fact, that the “security” team “taught them a lesson”. The crowd was shocked that someone was aggressively dragged out at “church” until the preacher spun the victim as someone with the devil in them, then everyone would be nodding their heads with a panicked look like “are we ok with this?.. I guess…”. Fucking surreal. Also, these people would try to dodge as many bills as they could. On several of the ones I did, the “church” stiffed the AV company I was working for on a $30k+ production.

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                Yeah I am actually really curious how they explain that, if anyone has a genuine answer.

                There is so much talk in the Bible about riches and wealth and being rewarded for being a good Christian but my memory serves that it’s referencing the holy spirit or rather the relationship with God is rewarding in and of itself and that the riches and all that is in the afterlife.

                And every time I recall it talking about wealth on earth it is vilified and you’re supposed to give it away. And of course there this famous quote

                And Jesus said unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, It is hard for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through a needle’s eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. Matthew 19:23-26

                Anyway yeah I’m curious how people can teach this aspect of the Bible with such a contradicting incorrect interpretation. I argue that it’s a contradicting book in itself all the time but wealth is not one I recall. We have hated the wealthy for millenia lol

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            Pretty sure avoiding “being born from the wrong vagina” is a popular defense of abortion among liberals.

            “It just explains so many things” When you’re a moron any description of a cause will suffice for the outcome.

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              I am pretty sure that body autonomy and a women being able to make her own choices about when to start a family are why we support a woman’s right to choose.

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                There is a multitude of reasons why people support abortion. One of the common arguments is that it is better to not exist than to be born poor or to parents that don’t want you (I.e literally the “born to the wrong vagina” argument). This is a widely supported belief and I would say that around 20 percent of pro-choice people I’ve debated (out of hundreds) use it as their primary argument.

                Asserting that there is a single reason why people hold a position is absurd.

                FYI bodily autonomy arguments have largely been abandoned in academic ethics, because there is just no existing right to bodily autonomy that is sufficiently strong, and we have no basis for arguing that there should be.

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                  Absolutely Parents who do not want to have a baby should not be forced to carry one to term. It ain’t some angel that came down and inhabited the womb that should be laminted as lost.

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                    “It ain’t some angel”

                    But it’s a human, and we don’t find engaging in active killing of humans permissible do we?

                    I also love that as a pretty open atheist, PC will constantly try to insinuate a religious motivation (even though most PL religious people don’t use the ensoulment argument either).

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                  Maybe that’s just because it makes sense to not want a massive amount of expenses in a life where they may have trouble taking care of themselves already.

                  You really act like it’s a bad thing to not have children if you can’t financially take care of them.

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                    And none of these have to do with targeted killing of human organisms based solely on the circumstances of their conception?

                    You don’t get to play “the conservatives want to kill and imprison poor children” card, when pro-choice liberals celebrate the exact same thing (not pro-life ones like me).

                    “You really act like it’s a bad thing to not have children if you can’t financially take care of them”

                    This argument falls in the same category of logic error that the “abortion is good because it prevents children from being poor” that I am refuting.

                    The fact that it is bad for people to be poor, does not follow that they should therefore be deprived of existence, because existence is not the cause of suffering but the poverty. When someone says “I wish I wasn’t poor”, they are NOT saying “I wish I didn’t exist” because they could easily make that happen. They are wishing that they had less hardship.

                    Likewise your argument is also a failure at descriptivism. Not having children for financial reasons, is not immoral. Abortion is not just “not having children”, it is an active deprivation of all future experiences of an existing human organism. That’s why it’s immoral. (And yes trying to argue that fetuses aren’t people is insufficient since one can argue from idealized persons {e.g we don’t kill mentally ill suicidal people because an idealized person wouldn’t want to die, in other words the immediate condition of the human is gladly ignored), or cases of temporary loss of personhood (regardless of how you define it) which would permit killing many if not all adults.

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                  there is just no existing right to bodily autonomy that is sufficiently strong

                  What the fuck is this? Just stop posting.

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                    I already showed that there wasn’t if you actually read anything. Nobody seriously contested it.

                    Funny that the geniuses here haven’t been able to do something that has been largely abandoned in ethics.

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        This was what they found in other schools too. One specific location ( I can’t remember where) the dads formed a group to a) keep kids peaceful and b) because they were being sent to jail for schoolyard bs. It was a largely black school. If you want to look it up with the sad details my brain is providing. Sry

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        Yep. Also noticed that the principal that called the police and the DA refusing to drop the case have the same last name. Garza isn’t that rare of a last name, but it’s not exactly “Smith”, either. I’d bet good money those fuckers are related to each other.

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      what the fuck is going on over there

      Brownsville is 94% Hispanic or Latino. This is Texas doing Texas shit.

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          I’m just saying… you never had a kid in class that was years older then everyone else, not doing shit, disrupting class all the time, getting violent and ending up in jail for attempt murder just after leaving school? I had. I wish there was a way to get him out of school earlier. I would be a better environment for everyone. But there wasn’t so they had to deal with him till he was 18 yo. Then on the other hand if you let teachers kick kids out they will get lazy and start locking up children for anything like in Texas.

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            Do you know what solitary confinement is? It’s putting someone in a cell, likely without furniture, for lengthy periods of time (discounting an hour of exercise by themselves). The light never turns off. There is absolutely no stimulation whatsoever allowed. Other prisoners yell through the air ducts in the hopes that someone will yell back.

            That environment is torture for an adult. This is a 10-year-old child.

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              You really think the general populace is safe for a 10-year old?

              Solitary confinement sucks, but in many cases it’s done to protect individuals from, you know, the other extremely violent people.

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                If you’re trying to be funny, you’ve taken it too far. You should be yeeted into a Texas prison where you claim immature assholes belong, because this situation isn’t a fucking joke.

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                  Holy shit lighten up. It’s not even the original poster, the sarcasm was very obviously implied with that comment.

                  Edit: nvm, I see now they are tag-teaming. Smells like trolls.

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              Weird, in my case it was only in elementary school. High school was not mandatory so the disruptive kids simply didn’t go there.

              Edit: Oh, just realized that you probably also have middle school. I didn’t. It was the same school from age 7 to 15. Education was mandatory till 18 or 16 yo so the school was stuck with all the stupid kids till then.

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                Ahhhh right, simple mistake to make. Middle school kids definitely deserve solitary confinement. Fucking what??

                I hope that maybe you’re just ignorant to what “solitary confinement” means, but even then, you’re talking about locking children away in fucking prison for misbehaving in 6th grade art class. Get a grip.

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                  Jesus, who’s talking about solitary confinement? Not even the original comment mentioned it. I definitely didn’t. Relax. It’s a shitty situation but getting angry about things you imagined is not going to save anyone.

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                    The original article is about putting a child into solitary confinement. You don’t even need to read the article. But keep moving those goalposts…

                    Is it really that much harder to just admit you were wrong (or literally just take the L and not respond at all) than doubling down on something so easily disproven?

                    The mindset is just fascinating to me.

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        76 arrests of elementary students? Does it really matter? I have a hard time believing any arrest is appropriate for that age