• Th4tGuyII@kbin.social
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    Starts to make sense how some conspiracies come out when you get examples like this of people being blatantly ignorant of evidence right in front of their noses

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      In my experience it has less to do with stuff like this where people are just not looking close enough or are mistaken and more to do with the idea of them being wrong being impossible. Conspiracies that I interact with don’t even discuss evidence. Because they can’t be wrong and there’s no way to falsify their worldview.

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        A lot of it has to do with wanting to be superior. They have feelings of not having control so they tell themselves and each other that everyone else is stupid and being fooled but not them, they are the smart few, they know the truth, they are the in crowd.

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          I have wondered if there is just a tolerance people have for feeling dumb. How much can you endure? If you can handle a lot you can continue to learn, doesn’t mean you will means you can. If you can’t handle a lot you make your life in such a way as you don’t have to feel that way. Like someone with a phobia who just always finds ways to not be around it. If I am right conspiracy theories are a coping mechanism to avoid the feeling of inadequacy.

          For myself my work is willing to pay for me to go back to school part time and I admit there is a part of me afraid of feeling stupid around all those kids fresh out of high school.

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            This sounds well thought out. I would say inadequacy and superiority are two sides of the same coin. If it helps you probably will be stupid around those other kids but not forever. You’ll get through it and be better for it. It sounds like you already know that

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        This, in the post truth era, evidence is only useful to educated people that are willing. For most victims, we have to de program them first.

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          Every single discussion I have about climate ends with “yes, that’s one side of the argument, but who really knows what’s the truth”.

          Motherfucker, you said something that’s false. I showed you you were wrong by a factor of several million. Where ever the exact truth lies, it’s way on the other side of the fucking moon from your standpoint.

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    *every known letter of the alphabet.

    The implication that there are undiscovered letters creates excitement for the reader. Who knows what is out there!

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    Those same people do math incorrectly and shout at everyone else to do it their way.

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      2+2=5

      Don’t take my word for it research about it yourself there are lots of good videos on YouTube the government and science liars don’t want you to know the truth /s

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          For those confused

          2.25+2.25=4.5 rounds to 2+2=5

          2.5+2.5=5 truncates to 2+2=5

          Both can crop up in programming, depending on the situation.

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            2.25 + 2.25 = 4.5

            If you add two floats together then the output is a float, if you add an int and a float together the output is a float. Computers will always perform the calculation as is, unless you explicitly tell them to perform a rounding operation.

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              However, if you stuff them into an int at the last minute, you can get that effect.

              Under the hood, it’s floats. On the output, it’s ints.

              It’s obvious and silly with small examples. The problem can creep in when you are using larger libraries or frameworks.

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            A few months back I had a floating point that had a single 1 like 16 digits past the decimal place and I couldn’t get rid of it.

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        Remember when Terrance Howard tried to explain how 1x1=2 because bird people from Atlantis tricked us? Good times.

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      Just look at those viral math problems. I recently saw one that was something like (1+2*3)*(1*0) and most comments were arguing if it was 7 or 9

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            I was going to claim 9 because I though there was some markdown that italicised things with a single ^, and your intent was (1+2³). Before the (1•0) of course.

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                And I agree. You’re completely missing my point, though

                The only advice I can give is to re-read the thread, starting from @[email protected]’s comment. If the source of your confusion is that you don’t know what escaping the asterisks means, then just ask

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      Of course, there’s also the times where we just make the research hard to do.

      Like, we teach kids PEMDAS, but then don’t actually follow PEMDAS in the original textbooks that introduce it and definitely not in common math or physics texts.

      Like, you’ll see 1/2√r in Feynman’s lectures being written not to represent ½*√r = √r / 2 as pemdas would suggest, but 1/(2*√r).

      Similarly, the original textbooks that introduced PEMDAS, if you read them, actually followed what you might call PEJMDAS, where multiplication via juxtaposition is treated as binding tighter than explicit multiplication, so 1÷2(2+3) would be interpreted not as ½(5) but as 1 ÷ (2 * 5), but they considered that so obvious they didn’t bother to explicitly spell it out in the rules.

      And now we have Facebook memes and tiktok livestreams arguing about what 1÷2(2+3) actually means.

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        Also by the time you’ve learned order of operations, you’ve outgrown the ÷ operator. You would never write 1 ÷ (2 * 5), you would write it with a proper numerator and denominator like anyone outside of elementary school would.

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          I hate these math problems you see on social media. No one would write that way or code that way. It is ambiguous, and even if it weren’t it is still hard to figure out. I think in my entire career I have seen one single line of code that took PEMDAS to sort out, I remember that line and the programmer told me that they were exploiting a feature of the complier to get slightly faster results. He was an annoying person

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    W is in brown

    E is in over

    V is in over

    Z is in lazy

    K is in quick

    And I can’t endorse any viewpoint that tells me to accept something on faith. You might not have time to do your own research on every single issue but you are certainly welcome too

    • FauxPseudo @lemmy.worldOP
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      This isn’t about not doing your research. It’s a lesson in the pitfalls of thinking you’ve competently done your research…

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          I didn’t look at the picture or read any other comments, so I am going to say ‘yes’. Or ‘no’. I’m going to need coffee first and that usually ends up with me forgetting this post by the time I get back.

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      Most people are incapable of doing their own research. It takes time and money to do studies. It takes years of training to define proper study parameters.

      Many people are also incapable of doing a meta analysis based on reading studies and opinions on the Internet. It takes years to root out the mental fallacies that we seem to be born with. But at least many can do this.

      Most people should find a trusted source or two and just read those.

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      Should say to have your research peer reviewed

      They did it and were wrong but now they can be corrected

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        Inglesh. Ingliti given the ti sound in words ending in tion. Englich if we use the soft ch option. I was functionally illiterate until my teens. By the end of highschool I had a college level reading comprehension but less than a third grade spelling ability. Trying to read something I wrote would have you convinced I wasn’t a native English speaker until I was in my late 20s. The less you know about English the more ways you can find to spell any word it offers up.

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    the availability of text on the internet can make people believe they’re an expert on topics that take a lifetime to understand

    if people should do their own research, we may as well shutter the national labs and universities

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      we may as well shutter the national labs and universities

      That’s an extremely desirable outcome for the “do your own research” crowd.

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    I especially like when the person who says “theres[sic] no letter e” is wrong 3 times and makes a spelling mistake. 😂

    Absolute disasterclass.

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    This is actually a perfect representation of the shallow “research” conspiracy theorists do.

    Quoting only the first few lines of an abstract outlining a problem/open question then ignoring the rest of the paper where they address the issue in the abstract.

    This way, they can claim that the paper says the exact opposite of what it does.