In the last years, I have seen plenty of users telling or promoting certain ultra-permissive rules as part of Open Source but which are not even in the definition like the use of read-only licenses, being a good example the MEGA software.

However, I didn’t find exact source of these ideas and only believed in the misinformation of certain videos in *tube or similar.

Today, I was looking for a FLOSS VPN client to use at home as I use MATE DE and found Printunl Client promoted as Open Source. Or that was everything until I read the license.

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    4 years ago

    Yeah, Vivaldi is another one where I’ve been misled to think that it’s open-source.
    I don’t believe it was ever officially communicated as such, but people have been claiming that it was open-source, presumably because open-source==good and they were fanboying for it.

    I’ve made it a habit when I find a new open-source project to check whether it even links a code repo and what license it has.

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      4 years ago

      Vivaldi is propietary with the exception of old released whose source code is released as a permissive FLOSS license, but only old versions.

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        Bit of a sidenote, but Vivaldi is just another Chromium browser. If I had to use Chromium, I’d rather use the Ungoogled fork, even if it’s not perfect at removing everything Google because they’ve made themselves so damn pervasive in the codebase.

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        Ah ok, I think back then it was something weird, like most of the code being open-source (the Chromium portion), then the Vivaldi-specific code was source-available, except for the assets, but you could get a hold of those assets by extracting them from the official build.

        Thinking about it, I guess some may have actually thought that open-source == source-available, but I also distinctly remember someone delivering the explanation above to argue that it’s technically open-source, because you could compile it yourself, if you really wanted to.

        …which is not at all the definition of open-source, but yeah, you linked it above, I don’t need to go into that.

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            Ah, thanks for posting that. I guess that horrible bullshit it’s-still-practically-open-source excuse actually came from their own website.

            Yes, what they wrote there is technically correct and technically they did not claim that they were open-source. But they also wrote it in the most confusing, most misleading way possible. That whole response should’ve began with “No, it’s not open-source”.

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      Yes I was really into Vivaldi for the vertical tabs and ditched them after I heard their pathetic reason for not being open source, yet building on top of open source.