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  • I’m not American and not the commentor, I’m observing from far away.

    I agree, people should vote for the best possible candidate. Even single issue voters. The alternative is worse for this single issue. If I was American, I’d vote strategically like people on this thread are saying.

    However

    There are Americans that had friends, family members, and colleagues killed in this conflict, and they can’t stomach going to the polls and voting for Biden after how he’s acted throughout this conflict. I won’t hold it against those people for not voting.

    I can’t even imagine what it would be like to have that happen and be told “go vote for him anyways”. As true as it might be, it’s not my place.



  • Sorry, I will highlight the important bit

    Removed from power through legal means, by the people they state they represent. Removing either group with violence will beget more violence. A new entity with the same ideology will fill the gap.

    Hamas as an organization has its own problems, and they share a lot of the same issues as Likud. They both hold on to power through violence and fear.



  • Even if it wasn’t intentional

    • he directly stated in a speech that he approved funding transfer to Hamas to help them grow in power to keep the people divided

    • they moved soldiers away from the border to the west bank to help with settlements

    • as this article suggests, they had a lot of warnings

    Those 3 points alone should be enough to send him and his party away, and until that happens (and until Hamas is also removed from power), that region won’t see peace.

    We need to let the legal system do its job, and for both Likud & Hamas to be removed from power through LEGAL MEANS by the people they say they represent.


  • The “funding” was confirmed by him from a past speech. Funding is in quotes because it wasn’t all direct funding, and that particular speech was about him signing off on a transfer of funds from someone else to Hamas. But the underlying motivation is still accurate because… that’s what he said the reason was. He said he wanted Hamas to have more funding so they would rise in power and keep the people divided.

    The rest of it is stuff that can never be proved in favor or against unless you can read minds. However, it seems more than likely if you take into account the wider history of him, his party, and the region.

    On the other side of this you have years of massive protests within Israel by Israeli citizens, and ongoing criminal and corruption charges against him and his associates within Israel.

    A violent war would help him, and that’s not a conspiracy


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    I’ve seen this posted elsewhere, and while it’s a valid thing to talk about it distracts from the bigger issues

    Others here have explained the difference between someone who’s taken as a prisoner (they are being held because of something they allegedly did) and someone who’s taken hostage (someone who’s held as security for some other purpose). From what I can tell, even Hamas isn’t saying the hostages are guilty of anything. It seems like those involved in the situation agree that the terminology is appropriate.

    The more important discussion imo are:

    • Whether the charges against the prisoners are appropriate, or if there’s a history of charges, arrests, and detention without justification or evidence. I think this is the point people are trying to make when they bring up hostages vs. prisoners, but if you aren’t specific about it you end up going in circles and arguing about the wrong thing.
    • Whether those are being held (both hostages and prisoners) are being treated with respect and dignity. If their needs are being met and if they are being tortured / otherwise suffering unjustly.

    There is also some more important discussion around terminology, such as one group being called “women” (implies humanity) and another “females” (more formal, scientific, and a term that’s also used for animals).



  • This might just feel like confirmation for those that have been watching the coverage in recent weeks. The CTV journalists and newscasters themselves look uncomfortable too, so it’s good that they’re now able to share what’s going on

    The journalists said senior producers and senior editors across the platforms of CTV’s parent company Bell Media have disparaged Palestinian guests, told employees that protests calling for a ceasefire should not be reported on, and blocked or delayed stories that included too much contextual information about Israel’s military occupation and regime of apartheid in Palestine.

    The journalists, who are not being identified for fear of retribution, described a widespread bias at the media conglomerate against Palestinians that’s resulted in one-sided, incomplete coverage of the violence in Gaza that does “a huge disservice” to Canadians.






  • Could the bigger issue be that him and his party are inflaming the conflict in order to hold on to power and avoid prison?

    Likud and Hamas need each other to exist. The party doesn’t have a future if there’s peace, and now more than ever they benefit from more conflict. That’s part of why they were ineffective during the initial attacks by Hamas, the other being they moved troops to the West Bank to support settler initiatives there.

    But time for that is yet to come, right now war is going on and bigger issues need dealing with.

    This is the bit I have a problem with because that’s the exact rhetoric he’s using right now. He’s said it himself, he’ll face responsibility but only after the war. He’s also said the war will be long.

    It’s pretty easy to see what he’s doing here