Look dude, Gabe Newell and Tim Sweeney are capitalists just like anyone else with a big business. They make decisions based on profit, not on doing the most good

Everyone who runs a big business has to understand how capitalism works, that does not mean they have to believe in it as a system, nor does it mean they have to make every decision to maximize profit at every possible step. Especially when the company is privately controlled.

Breaking Terms of Service to get on the Apple store wasn’t a fucking holy war to save gamers from an evil corporation, it was one evil corporation taking a stab at another evil corporation because they wanted a cut of the profits.

It was a shot in a million stab, and it was a stab that if landed, would give every single software developer more money, instead of Apple hoarding it for no reason.

Stop acting like since both sides are corporations, both of their arguments will lead to equally bad outcomes. This is literally just a false equivalency fallacy.

Valve sucks, Epic sucks, they all suck because they’re all capitalists dude. In the end, the money matters, not the gamers, they’re just the source of the money. They only ever do genuinely good things when forced to by outside parties.

Even if I accept your premise that it’s impossible that Tim Sweeney is a human being motivated by human emotions and desires, it still does not matter, because Epic’s crusade to break up monopolies will mean less money that Apple hoards for no reason, and more money going to the developers actually creating the software you use. It is an objectively better outcome.

There’s a reason that EU regulators agree with Epic, and it’s not because they’re motivated by Epic’s profit margins.

Stop fucking declaring war on your allies and neighbours if you don’t want people fucking pissed at you.

When the sentiment is anti-west generally, and anti-EU, then it seems sus to me, just anti-American feels pretty valid.

which is ironically the most monopolistic and anti-consumer OS right now.

Really? Because

a) Windows is objectively less monopolistic and anti-competitive than iOS and Android

b) and it is pretty much equal to MacOS in this regard.

Them supporting Windows isn’t a matter of boosting the most anti-competitive OS, but following the easiest path, which is one of supporting anti-competitive OSes.

And yeah, overall, I would also prefer Epic to better support Linux. I’m hoping that Proton might convince them it’s a low enough lift to do but I’m not exactly holding my breath.

Yeah well, when everyone else goes “I don’t like two launchers on my PC so he’s the devil incarnate and everything he does is evil”, it’s hard to defend him without it looking like his account.

I’m not saying he’s even necessarily not an asshole, I don’t know him personally, I just know that things that PC gamers hate on him for pale in comparison to the things anti-trust campaigners praise him for.

You don’t have to “drink the koolaid”, you just have to understand how monopolies and anti-competitive markets always lead to abuse. In this specific case, that would look like Apple and Android’s unavoidable 30% cut of revenue for every single sale.

He does not try to destroy Linux, Epic literally just consistently makes the decision to not actively support a platform that’s probably not profitable for them to actually support, given that most other developers don’t support it either.

He was also the one leading the charge against the Windows Store when Microsoft launched it, out of fears that they would use it anti-competitively like Apple / Google do theirs (and this is long before the Epic store).

You thing he’s an asshole because his company has made decisions that inconvenient you personally, so you think he’s an asshole and all his motivations are thus dickish. Launching quixotic anti-trust campaigns against Apple and Google, the largest companies in the world (that literally dwarf Epic by orders of magnitude), was never a smart business decision, and never a campaign Epic was likely to win. It was a shot in a million to try and use their Fortnite fortune to actually enact meaningful change.

All of which were 100% profit-driven

You’re reasoning for that is:

• more competition and a level playing field will make it more profitable for smaller companies like Epic

which means that to you, it’s literally impossible for any company that’s not an anti-competitive monopoly to try and change competition law, since it will benefit them and then it’s not altruistic, right?

Because here’s the thing about breaking up monopolies and changing anti-trust law to enable more competition: it doesn’t really matter why you do it. It is an objective improvement to the world.

conveniently ignoring Epic’s many sins not limited to the one I personally despise him the most for: killing the Linux and Mac builds of rocket league. Epic bought the studio and nuked the Linux version, no apology.

And Rocket League is still alive and well and widely played to this day, including through Proton on Linux, something that can’t necessarily be said about many other games from its era. You’re acting like if they hadn’t bought Psyonix that Psyonix would still be alive and well and devoted to nothing but Rocket League to this day.

This is of course, based on precisely nothing, but your feeling about PC exclusives on the Epic store, right?

This should not be surprising to anyone.

The literal only reason people think he’s an asshole is because PC gamers got all butt hurt about Epic trying to use exclusive games to get their store off the ground and compete with Steam / consoles.

On the other side of that, he has repeatedly called out Microsoft, Apple, Google, et al for their monopolistic gatekeeping practices, and has spent Epic’s Fortnite fortune intentionally launching massively expensive legal campaigns to get these monopolies broken up, have anti-trust law changed, and set legal precedents that they can’t be so abusive.

Every PC gamer on Reddit and Lemmy praising Gabe Newell and shitting on Tim Sweeney, are quite frankly, insanely ill-informed at best, and flat out single-issue idiots at worst.

The “Tim Sweeney” is an asshole take, is the easiest way to spot the bottom tier of PC gamer.

Guy could have taken his Fortnite billions and built a compound in New Zealand to fuck off to, but instead he literally spent his fortune launching legal campaigns against the biggest monopolies in the world to break them up and actually change competition law going forward, both in Europe and the US, but PC gamers think he’s an asshole because they tried to use exclusive games to get their store off the ground.

Get some perspective on the bigger picture.

It’s literally listed in stack overflow’s section on IDEs, functions as a replacement for an IDE, was architected so that plugins can turn it into an IDE, and is distributed with plugins made by the same company that turn it into an IDE. Insisting that it’s not an IDE in this context isnt helping anyone communicate, it’s just being pedantic.

And yet, the most popular, and desired (and one of the most admired) IDEs that developers use all day, everyday, is built using Electron:

https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2024/technology/#2-integrated-development-environment

Yeah, but the Quest 3 still isn’t really great for remote desktop. It’s a little too low res, and the headset itself is too heavy to wear for that long, though it certainly does feel like the devs are using them to dogfood, given how much they keep improving the remote desktop features.

Lmao.

Just because you can’t understand, apparently basic nuance, like the difference between education and education camps, it doesn’t mean that it’s not understandable.

Kinda surprised tbh. It was clearly DOA for gaming, but if anything, I think the Apple Vision Pro demonstrated that there is a potential market for a high end VR headset as a monitor replacement if you could get it small and light enough.

I’m guessing that focusing on just the Quest 3 / 3S chipsets let them focus and optimize everything way more overall though.

Whoosh. Thanks for making it clear that you didn’t actually come on a discussion forum to discuss anything, just to hear yourself talk.

Yeah, I’m not talking about developing new computer technologies as utter bullshit, I’m talking about the trillions spent on advertising for instance, or social media platforms.

This isn’t really true. It’s kind of true for scientists because by their nature, they work on discovering new things, but even still, the amount we know and understand about say, physics and chemistry, is way way way greater than biology.

Like for physics and chemistry we have a very rock solid understanding of how the vast majority of reactions and interactions that effect the universe at our scale, work. Most of what physicists and chemists are learning these days is at the outer edges of what’s physically possible or studying, there’s very few questions left about common, day to day reactions, those are so well understood that they’re considered engineering and not science anymore.

But that’s not the case for biology. We still don’t understand very basic elementary things about the human body and what parts of it even do, let alone the wider, non human biological world. There is truly more unknowns in biology than the other sciences.

As a country, we should be allowed to play a ‘discard your hand and draw a new one’ card.

One of us needs to do some growing up for sure; I suspect it’s the one saying that we can’t warn people about cancer because it’s the same as Chinese propaganda; that one-two punch of racism and non sequitur.

Me: points out that propaganda, nagging, and advertising worth through the mechanism of bombarding people with the same message over and over, and is not what we consider education, but is in fact similar to “education camps” which are explicitly distinguished from actual education institutions, since they don’t work through informing people and letting them make their own choice.

You: you’re racist and don’t make sense!

… ok there bud.