SystemD is blamed for long boot times and being heavy and bloated on resources. I tried OpenRC and Runit on real hardware (Ryzen 5000-series laptop) for week each and saw only 1 second faster boot time.

I’m old enough to remember plymouth.service (graphical image) being the most slowest service on boot in Ubuntu 16.04 and 18.04. But I don’t see that as an issue anymore. I don’t have a graphical systemD boot on my Arch but I installed Fedora Sericea and it actually boots faster than my Arch despite the plymouth (or whatever they call it nowadays).

My 2 questions:

  1. Is the current SystemD rant derived from years ago (while they’ve improved a lot)?
  2. Should Linux community rant about bigger problems such as Wayland related things not ready for current needs of normies?
  • pingveno@lemmy.ml
    6·
    1 year ago

    How so? I like the systemctl syntax more, since it allows for starting/stopping many units at once. It also supports a much richer set of commons than service ever did.

    • TerraRoot@sh.itjust.works
      2·
      1 year ago

      it just feels like a manager decided the command should read like english, made the decision then went back to never entering a command again in the terminal again. every day, i get to decide, should i enter “systemctl restart problem_service” all again or hit up on the keyboard and and hold back, then rewrite over the previous status command. bit less work if the status/stop/start/restart bit was on the end like it used to be.

      • MaxHardwood
        20·
        1 year ago

        In BASH ALT+T will swap the last white spaced separated strings… It’s still annoying but makes “systemctl problem_server start/status/restart” a bit easier. CTRL+W will clear the current string to whitespace, so up arrow, ALT+T, CTRL+W, status, ALT+T, Enter.

        • M. Forester@rollenspiel.social
          1·
          1 year ago

          @MaxHardwood cool. Thanks. 🙂
          I just noticed that it won’t work if you have a dot ‘.’ in there, e.g. ‘rsyslog.service’. It will then switch rsyslog and service around. Sadly Bash always wants to autocomplete including the *.service part. 😩
          But I’m sure I’ll find other applications for this.

          • Gabriel Pettier@mas.to
            1·
            1 year ago

            @elithebearded @MaxHardwood same on left-alt and right-alt? (alt-gr if you have an iso keyboard?). It should be left-alt.

            you can use bind -p to print the available functions and the key sequences bound to them. (though sadly the control/alt keys are expressed in a way that can be confusing to newcomers, \e would be alt, and \c control)

            edit: and by newcomers, i include myself, for only having been using linux for 18 years.

      • themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works
        3·
        1 year ago

        The bit was on the end because it was an argument to the script specific to that program. Instead, the control is now at the start because it is an argument to systemctl itself. This removes the ability to define custom controls, but enables you to control many things at once.

        • pingveno@lemmy.ml
          2·
          1 year ago

          Yeah, command subcommand args.... The service format makes more sense when you’re seeing it as “run this script to control this service”. The systemctl format makes more sense as a frontend subcommand to control systemd itself.