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      Yeah, totally. NATO are big friends with Nazis. They have tea-parties and everything.

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          you don’t understand, social democracy is gud, how could they ever be friends with nazis?! it just doesn’t make sense!!!1

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          Good work. Now majority of NATO countries are social nazists that want to restore the third reich, pretty logical stuff

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            NATO is the US’s main military foothold in Europe. And considering the Nazis explicitly emulated their conquest for lebensraum in eastern Europe on the colonialist manifest destiny project of the US, its not hard to see why NATO not only early on, but even now, would continue to work with white supremacists.

            Its more accurate to say that NATO exists to continue upholding the interests of US and European capital.

            Some of NATOs recent hits:

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              On Media Bias/Fact Check, The Grayzone is still pending evaluation, but is marked as a news outlet that publishes conspiracy and pseudoscience, although being a premature labeling. Of course, we should wait for a full review

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                  Sorry bro, but I can’t trust Swiss Policy Research with what they say, being that they’re not transparent with their work. I’m sure you’ve read “Criticism of SPR” at the bottom of their About Us / Contact page

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                How exactly do you trust that site more than any other site that claims to be impartial? Huge news outlets that tout themselves as being objective and unbiased like the Guardian, Independent, AP, etc have been called out for anti-far-left fake news so what makes this site so special?

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                  I wouldn’t say special, I just mentioned a fairly credible fact-checking website, but I might be wrong as others sites can review the news outlet, or have already.

                  Also: here, here and here are MB/FC’s reviews on those outlets you mentioned, updated this March

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              It’s basically like hearing from a nazi talking about the labour party. Instead they’ll talk about how for example NATO works to undermind the white race. You grose me out, you and all the other disgusting people that propel this kind of shit on Lemmy. I don’t know how things are socially for you with these things, maybe you never talk about it with people you know IRL.

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                I literally showed you 2 nazi generals who helped found NATO, and showed you multiple examples of todays NATO glorifying nazis. How on earth can you possibly defend this?

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                  Because this and that doesn*t mean thismakes this and that. Basic level stuff like ‘correlation doesn’t mean causation’ type of meme.

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                  No, go defend NATO to someone ignorant of its history. There’s nothing I could possibly learn from you.

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                  Why the hell are you challenging him face to face instead of maybe XMPP or Matrix or heck even here on Lemmy in real time?

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        Have you seen the Nazi flags being flown by American rightists and the US politicians that cheer them on and call them patriots and fine people? The Nazi flags flown during the January 6 coup attempt and the US politicans that just now blocked an investigation and completely deny that fascism had anything to do with it?

        Guess which country has the most power in NATO.

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        @[email protected]

        Really though, this is annoying with regards to who the general secretary of NATO is.

        It’s not many years ago a far right terrorist called Anders Breivik killed almost a 100 teenagers attending a youth party summer camp of the party he was a leader of at the same time as he was Norway’s state minister at the time. The terrorist suspected the labour party for being communists (labour party being the party is was leader of)

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          The Azov Battalion, a neo Nazi group, burned 46 people alive in the Trade Union House fire in Odessa in 2014. Of which Roman is affiliated with. Your ex state minister is a politician and now leads one of the most beligerent military alliances in the world. Sorry to break it to you.

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            You are not breaking anything. I think you should look more into european politics as you don’t know enough of the context. “NATO defending nazis”. It’s a whole lot of bullcrap