Nic McConnell @NicMcC83:
this is the most devastating review of anything i’ve ever seen
Scary Whitta @garywhitta· 1d:
Imagine if your printer was also your car. That’s what owning a Tesla is like.
Nic McConnell @NicMcC83:
this is the most devastating review of anything i’ve ever seen
Scary Whitta @garywhitta· 1d:
Imagine if your printer was also your car. That’s what owning a Tesla is like.
All corporations. All corporations will not be happy until ownership is a concept of the past. You are borrowing the company’s resources and paying them for the service.
If you don’t like it, stop heralding capitalism as the be-all of economic systems…
This is Lemmy, you don’t have to convince people not to like capitalism here, we’re already on board
We already have a noose set up for the first instance that gets greedy.
Define ‘we’. Not all of us are communists.
Don’t have to be communist to hate modern companies.
Skill issue
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Communists aren’t the only people that hate modern, western, late stage capitalism. Some of us are good, old fashioned, corporations-aren’t-people folks who believe that the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness shouldn’t be infringed by the mantra of “maximizing profits for our shareholders”.
Ah because if you don’t support laissez-faire capitalism you must be a communist.
Tell me you ate the onion without telling me you ate the onion.
Ho mangiato la cipolla
Communism is the least of your worries.
Ha! You know you are on Lemmy when “not all of us are Communists” gets pummelled by downvotes.
Apparently most are!
No, he got downvoted because he equated not supporting capitalism to communism. I think most people on Lemmy are lefties but not communists. There’s a lot of in between.
What are the other alternatives to capitalism?
Social democracy as in the European social countries for example. There’s capitalism and partially free market, but its negative effects are balanced by stronger social safety nets such as free healthcare, free education, parental support, paid vacations and other public services thanks to redistribution through progressive taxes. It’s not perfect but I believe it’s the best of what we have actually experimented to scale for now.
Those countries have actually more free economies than many of the countries that are thought of us being hard-core capitalist. https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking
Scandinavia is #9-12, Canada #16, United States is #25, UK #28.
Not sure if this proves or disproves anyone’s point. Just thought to point that out.
I’m personally not against a partially free market that allows a well optimized economy as long as the potential negative impact on people and the environment are
compostedcompensated by well enforced laws.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_system
First header is “list of economic systems”
Well, all of human history before the 1400s for starters.
I thought it was obvious that we were looking for alternatives that are better.
What? He literally just said “not all of us are Communists” any other interpretation is very much reading between lines which is a stretch when there is only one line.
And with the context of the comment that they were replying to, that is very much what is implied. No need to read between the single line.
At least 15 people are!
Lol Lemmy’s Klepto Keyboard Kommunists are an endless source of misguided entertainment.
“Misguided” is a touch ironic when the only substantive point being made is, “capitalists seek profits above the welfare of their workers or customers.” You know… something heavily demonstrated throughout history…
But no, anyone who disagrees with you must be a misguided commie… Pathetic.
It’s ironic, isn’t it. With the most common “criticism” of communism being that nobody will be able to have any personal belongings…
As far as i know, communists want to share means of production (usually land and machines, anything you need to work other than your brain). That means you may have your own printer and car, as long as you pay for it with a well distributed salary.
Eventually people will realize that there is no real difference between communism and capitalism, because both systems always end up with fascists in charge.
I will agree with you only in the context where “Communism” is sought directly. In that situation, the power vaccuum in which discussions have weight are ALWAYS userped by some local, pre-existing authority, who almost always go for full authoritarian control with the language of “Communism”.
By now, most communists that aren’t just Tankies (those who idolize “Strong Men” while using leftist language) understand that “real” communism is simply a state of being where commercialized needs are no longer an existant concept after implementing enough socialistic and humanistic policies. As in, policies that benefit normal people before corporations or the rich who already have what they need.
The thing is, communism and capitalism are basically monetary systems. They aren’t power systems. No matter how a country’s finances are set up, there’s always some assholes who eventually manage to claw their way to the top and get very rich off of their power, and bring everything crashing down because they will always want more.
That’s why anyone who is knowledgable and serious about it knows that it IS NOT a direct goal to seek. It is a state of being after you’ve gotten past all the rich fucks and power hungry. Yes, that likely means it is impossible to attain, especially in our lifetimes, but that doesn’t make it a bad target when approached properly.
Is there a third option here?
Will that really work in long term? More and more folks are entering gig economy where incomes aren’t consistently stable and people have already started to subscribe for minimum time just to consume relevant content. Are they really banking on whales forgetting to unsubscribe?
You’re on Lemmy. Someone is going to mention unions within seconds.
You just did
That was only a metamention.
No they aren’t. One thing people need to learn is; executives are some of the dumbest people on this planet. Short term profits far too often wins over logical long term projections.
If they were smart, enshitification wouldn’t be reality.
I’m not sure that is true. Their job is to prioritize short term profits. If they instead prioritize long term sanity, their bosses may fire them…
living as a service
Settle down. You’re on Lemmy, know your audience.
The irony…
Sorry full disclosure I’m high but what irony ?
There isn’t any irony. Whomever you were replying to has reading comprehension issues.
OP says that we should renounce capitalism, and I said that’s a silly statement since Lemmy unequivocally hates capitalism.
I am OP and I am the one who said capitalism is dumb. The irony was the person who responded to me saying, “know your audience”. I am the one who said, “the irony”… The irony is you implicitly think Lemmy is capitalist friendly as normal…
Maybe you are the one who needs to work on reading comprehension because you have completely fucked this up. You are quite literally incapable of understanding this basic conversation. Pathetic.
Re-read again. Slowly this time. Then use brain. If you’re experiencing the same result, try again but slower. Try sounding out the words.
NOWHERE WAS I APPLAUDING CAPITALISM
No fucking shit moron. That’s not required for irony. If you actually had a brain, you’d realize how conversation works, but clearly you never interact with actual humans. What your statements can imply do not have to be intentional to never the less still be implied, dipshit.
Did you read slow this time? Did you sound out ALL the words?
Mostly the “know your audience” bit. This is Lemmy. The non-corporate Reddit. If either of the two were going to understand the downsides of capitalism, it’d be those seeking escape from the products of capitalism.
… Also etiquette… pass that blunt!
What are you talking about?? OP saying that we need to stop HeRalDing capitalism. Like we’re not on Lemmy and that the overwhelming majority of us don’t already profess to hate capitalism on a very regular basis.
I don’t know how you read that any other way, smh