• kboy101222@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    The IDF is the Israeli Defense Force, the main military arm of the fascist Israeli government.

    Hamas is bad too before some ass comes along and yells “antisemitism” cause I said Israel sucks.

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      Still factually wrong. The IDF ist Israels military, independent from whether there are currently fascists in the government

      Your formulation implies

      • there’s a fascist government
      • a special armed force installed by that fascist government specifically (I.e like the SS/SA from the Nazis, or possibly the Wagner group)

      While the first one is debatable, the second one is just plain wrong.

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      1 year ago

      Finally! A comment that gives out the full name of this stupid abbreviation

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        1 year ago

        Honestly it should be common decency to put the full expanded name if you’re the first one to say it.

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      IDF reservists actually took the step of protesting against the government over recent proposed changes to weaken their Supreme Court. (Source)

      Not what you’d expect “a bunch of fascists” to do. Nearly every Israeli citizen has mandatory military service.

      Surely you’re not labelling an entire population based on the actions of their government?

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        It turns out you don’t need to be a card carrying true believer in fascism to be a fascist. All you gotta do is stand by while the fascists do what they want.

        Protesting is nice, i guess, but characterizing the Israeli government as “fascist” is pretty fair.

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          1 year ago

          Any sane opinion is centrism and somehow bad. You are only allowed to commit genocides here!

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          I understand your apprehension to centrism as it tries to normalize uneven sides, but to answer your question yes. The bare definition of centrism is that you don’t align with either side.

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        I don’t think it’s centrist to say Fascism and Terrorism are both bad.

        Although I suppose “shitty people are shit” is neither a left wing or right wing take, so maybe it is.

      • kboy101222@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        Hell no, I’m just not some delusional chronically online tankie that’ll cheer on the deaths of hundreds of civilians. I’m an anarchist. Ideally there’d be no nations to fight over or religions to fight about anymore, but we don’t live in that reality. Hamas committed a massive atrocity. Israel has repeatedly committed atrocities by murdering tens of thousands of civilians