• soferman@lemmy.ml
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    4 years ago

    There are a version of this I could agree with, unfortunately there are a lot of things I dislike.

    “The US isn’t REALLY pulling out” “The government acts on it’s own and don’t adher to the representatives nor the voters that vote them in” “Afghanistan is also part of their strategy to encircle China”

    I find these statements that are pretty difficult to swallow and i’d call some of it very conspiratorial. I’d agree on some level that the military industrial complex is a problem, they are keeping some forces, but fully pulling out like that would be stupid and dangerous for Afghanistan.

    I say good that they can deploy their troops in a matter of days or weeks. One thing is to not want your soldiers dying in Afghanistan, another is wanting Afghanistan to not have armed forces available. Just seems to warped to me

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      4 years ago

      I find these statements that are pretty difficult to swallow and i’d call some of it very conspiratorial.

      What right does the US have, to have 800+ military bases outside its borders?

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        4 years ago

        Nuance is a b1tch. You have to differentiate current and historical military action. Not all US bases exists for the same reason and exists from different deals of security and so on.

        Also, why is it a problem with the military bases there? It’s a shame that these places has military power right? Seems like that is what you categorically want. I’ll probably make sure not to get into a rabbithole about Hong Kong and Taiwan either.

        But I know you guys for a bit now, so i’m not suprised. Can’t help taking the piss at ya’ll too. But I do get so stirred by all the stuff, which is motly my fault.

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          The American foreign policy is commonly known, historically as well as currently. The same actions that happened in Iraq couple decades ago, similar actions like Project Maven (Google AI powered military drones) happened in 2018, where Yemen was bombed.

          What are these historical and current actions being different, you speak of? Are you apologising for the American overseas terrorism knowingly, whilst portraying some kind of pity on the “eagle saviour of the world”? Are you evangelised regarding USA’s intent to make the world a better place?

          Is the Uyghur genocide propaganda, and recent delisting of Al Qaeda associate ETIM terrorist organisation, not a hint of history repeating once again, after the Iran baby incubator testimony of Nayirah, whose family got paid $8M by CIA?

          Is the Vietnam war, or the East Timor or Indonesian genocides, documented, enough for you to understand Anglo colonialism?

          Also, you do not seem to know why a lot of the US basecamps are lined conveniently along the Strait of Malacca, the main route for South Asia for trading stuff. And somehow, the only other trade route established by China, using Belt Road Initiative, passing through Afghanistan, is also where USA military stands by since post 9/11.