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Where would the Bazzite operating system fit in?
Hannah Montana Linux in the far bottom right
My take
I think you’re missing quite a few like:
- z/OS it’s IBM’s mainframe OS, so super corporate and niche
- raspberry pi os should be included because it’s pretty mainstream
- android and iOS should be on there because they’re very mainstream, not technically desktop OSs but for a normie with a tablet what’s the difference?
- there’s a lot of embedded OSs that could be added (open WRT, Windows IoT, NetBSD)
- no Temple OS?
- free DOS?
- Whatever special ones they use for super mission critical stuff like the ISS
You can install Debian on your Chromebook like you would any app, which I feel makes it a bit less controlling since you have access to a complete Debian install and all the benefits that provides.
Windows also has WSL, which gives you Ubuntu, although that process isn’t quite as user friendly.
You can’t take out ChromeOS as you can Windows
Ubuntu easiest Linux distro
Hahaha it’s a noob bait
hasn’t been the easiest in about 7 years haha
GUIX top left
- dictates to the OS how it has to be
- requires a lot of reading theory
- no ties to anduril
nixOS top right
- dictates to the OS how it has to be
- recruits people snatchers
Edit: Ah I missed the axes are not labeled like the common political compass. Nvm then. Put NixOS above RHEL and guix above arch.
NixOS is definitely not as corporate as MacOS or ChromeOS. It’s also not as mainstream as RHEL. I’d say RHEL should be one square to the right, NixOS should go where RHEL is now, and Guix should share the square with Gentoo.
Why isn’t openSUSE included in that table?
Fedora is basically a testing ground for the next RHEL release.
RedHat: noooo, fedora’s definitely for sure independent. you’re not just doing free labor for IBM
Red Hat is their biggest sponsors, and uses their releases to bugfix and create their new releases. But just because Red Hat uses it this way, ofc doesn’t mean Fedora isnt independent, it just means they are very influenced by a HUGE donor!
Are there specific choices made by fedora that would have should have been done differently but were pushed by the large donor?
Just asking because I’m on fedora but wasn’t aware of that relationship but this description hasn’t yet convinced me that the relationship is toxic for users, but my mind is open enough to believe it with specific examples.
The thing is, we don’t really know really. The only thing we know for certain is that Fedoras rollouts is basicly a testtube for Red Hat. I think Red Hat or Fedora was pretty open about this. It might seem “negative” but I just think it adds an extra layer of caution. I don’t think Fedora is interested in becoming buggy in any way, or irrelevant for that matter. Bazzite for instance also run on Fedora, so that would be crazy. But I also think that they just might implement things IBMs red hat tells them too, if they wanna keep getting those huge donations. Donations at an open source market still benefits the doner in this way. It’s a fastlane ticket to features after doners desire. So Fedora users might just get the rollouts before Red Hat users, and get it with the bugs it might have at early stages, before Red Hat implements it. But I am not in any shape or forme in knowledge of the Fedora team and I don’t know how the relationship works. I just don’t buy the fact that IBM gives millions to the Fedora team without using it for their own advantage as well. Who wouldn’t?
LOL at Windows being marked as less corporate than MacOS. They should absolutely be at least tied.
Literal megacorporations have run purely on Windows since the 90s and it’s not S-tier corporate? lol
Windows is not at the top of corporate possibly because it can be installed on non-homologated PCs.
But on the other hand, all the reasons that people hate corporate OSes apply much more to Microsoft than Apple. Microsoft is the company that puts ads in their OS and is built entirely out of proprietary tech, and has been more vocal about shoehorning AI into everything.
That’s a poor qualifier. Most corporations do not deploy MacOS to their employees. Windows belongs in the top right, if not a full line by itself for Corporate.
Hmm, I don’t see how Corporate can be on a scale though. Either the distro is run by a corporation, or it’s not.
macos is very controlled. windows is closed source but an open system. runs on many devices.
i think an OS can be made entirely by a corporation, or entirely by one hobbyist with no funding. something like fedora is made by volunteers with corporate funding, whereas something like Arch is made by volunteers with donations, some of which might be coming from corporate representatives
Hm, yes I suppose you can see it that way. Personally, I’m mostly interested in if it’s a community thing or not, but I suppose corpo donations can be found all over these as well.
I love where mint is and i love that I’m there with it.
Might try cachy someday
Was bazzite on here? Did i just not see it?
CachyOS a bit to the left. It is not at all mainstream in my bubble.
NixOS on the niche and corporate quadrant.
if you live antwhere but the USA and Canada, MacOS is a niche, absolutely not mainstream at all, I see more linux users than MacBook users here in Brazil
macs are so rare that someone once screenshared and i was almost asking if that was gnome
Lmao. In Europe Mac is mainstream and most people think I have MacOS installed when it’s in fact gnome
Oh, didn’t you know? “The World” is just “USA” on the Internet.
I mean…it was invented there. And it is the third most populous country in the world. So, for a long time the Internet was USA. It’s not anymore but change can take a while to sink in.
Just my 2 cents.
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Do they not advertise in Brazil? Cuz if y’all can go a day without seeing an ad of a floating laptop doing pirouettes in an endless white void to an overproduced pop song masquerading as indie, I might be down to move.
as someone who has lived 20 years in brazil, (since brith and has yet to venture outside) I have seen one apple ad in my whole life, and zero apple apple stores, the few times I decided to look up some of them because of memes I was genuinely disgusted by them
Some people don’t like snaps
“Some people like snaps” would have been closer to the truth, but it would still be an exaggeration of their numbers.
I bet Mark Shuttleworth likes Snaps.
“A person likes snaps.”
There, all covered and more accurate than the original.
His mom probably likes them too.
His dad probably says “WTF is this Snap bullshit son? We didn’t raise you like that.”
Then his mom replies, “it’s just a phase, he needs our support, I’m sure you can make snaps happen, sweetie.”
You know what? I know they’re far from the ideal solution, but I have installed a few things with snaps … and it was fine. It worked seamlessly and painlessly (in some instances).
Generally, I’d prefer other ways to install, but snaps aren’t the end of the world.
(This concludes my hot take of the day.)
Yeah those fights are like the nerds dying for Arch. Probably a good thing so that things move forward but utterly useless for lambda users.
Hot Take Day!
It’s not a question whether they work or not. It’s whether you’re okay with an app distribution system that forces us to be dependent on one corporation. Snap’s backend effectively makes Ubuntu almost as bad as Android.
And seeing as there is no shortage of better options, why not choose those?
snaps aren’t the end of the world
System engineers all collectively shuddered at that thought. Then OS security nerds.
This is the “I tried heroin and it was good” story but for OSes
pretty soon we’ll need snaps in our snaps to make it easier for developers to create snaps with snap dependencies
Snap maintainer here - this makes no sense whatsoever.
And if I tried heroin and it was bad was also even more common.
What about flatpack?
