• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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    5 days ago

    First of all, it’s the principle of not participating in a literal fucking genocide. Second, Americans can do what they want to do without Canada continuing to send weapons to them to commit atrocities. Seems like a really low bar for anybody with even a shred of moral integrity.

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      4 days ago

      It’s the principle? So we just pretend, and our conscience is clear

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        4 days ago

        We just pretend what? Seems to me that the argument you’re trying to make here is if we don’t facilitate the genocide, then somebody else will.

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          4 days ago

          The No More Loopholes Act was a ‘just pretend’ act to make it look like some MPs were doing something about it, Why? For the ‘principal’? The optics? So their conscience could be clear? ‘Well, we tried’. The Act was toothless, there was no way the US government would have paid it any heed. They commenced the Iranian bombing action without even warning Canadian soldiers on the US bases so they could evacuate ahead of time. Just went ahead and left our soldiers in danger. You think they would ever be choosy about the ammunition they used?

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            4 days ago

            And yet, the fact of the matter remains that we couldn’t even pass this performative and toothless act. What does that say about our government?

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              4 days ago

              That our government is pragmatic and considers that it is not worth poking the tiger on passing a frivolous act that will antagonize the US, provoke Trump into a retaliatory vendetta, yet accomplish no meaningful objective.

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                It will never cease to amaze how easy it is for some people to make excuses for participating in a genocide. Saying I will not be part of a genocide is itself a meaningful objective, and if you do not understand this simple truth then you’re truly lost.

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                  3 days ago

                  I understand the pragmatics of dealing with Trump. A wise statesman picks their battles. Saying ‘I will not be part of a genocide’ when you can’t do anything about it is hardly a meaningful objective, unless the objective is a photo op, which it appears to be in this case. In such cases, talk is useless against a madman. It rarely does anything to actually stop the genocide. But hey, if you smile for the photo op, it might convince the gullible that you are doing something.

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                    3 days ago

                    The thing is, Trump will fuck Canada regardless of how many atrocities Canada signs up to do together. Just look at the Europeans bending over backwards for him, and all they get in return is abuse. Abandoning all your values to suck up to fascists is not pragmatism, it’s debasement.

                    I’m frankly amazed that you don’t realize just how psychopathic the whole argument that since we can’t stop the genocide we might as well take part in it is. If you’re not gonna draw the line at that, then you’re no better than the fascists you’re taking photo ops with.