• Whitebrow@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    What was the joke again…

    “Humans can survive off a diet consisting of potatoes and butter, as demonstrated by a years long case study commonly known as Ireland”

    Something along those lines.

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      You’re missing a bunch of micro nutrients which would cause problems over time with this. It has all the calories and protein you need though.

      Add in some fat from somewhere like cooking oil, and a handful of vegetables like onions, carrots, etc. and you’d last a fairly normal human lifespan.

      • Paragone@lemmy.world
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        Vegetables often contain oil, the problem is getting omega-3’s, which our bodies can’t make.

        In the sea, it’s algae who’re producing it: then krill, then squid/fish/etc eat them…

        some plants make it, some don’t…

        olives are good, olive-oil, etc…

        but anybody who’s eating squash is getting omega-6’s or 9’s, even though it seems non-intuitive.

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        Does the type of rice matter?

        Yes; make sure it’s whole grain. White rice is essentially junk food, with most of its fiber, vitamins & minerals stripped in the de-hulling process.

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          I have a sack of white rice to eat through… I don’t really know what to do with it all. My partner got it from work. Would rather basmati rice really.

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            3 days ago

            A lot of rice sold (most?) is “enriched” so the vitamins and minerals are added back. But the fiber is gone and rinsing the rice washes away the nutrient powder.

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              Why do people wash rice? Never really bothered with it. 2:1 usually works pretty nicely, get the water boiling add the rice and put it on low. Come back when ready.

              Or like 4-5 to 1 with milk and have it as rice pudding/porridge.

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                3 days ago

                Washing rice makes the final texture better. Unwashed rice has a coating of starch that causes the grains to stick together in a gooey mess.

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            You might mix it with non-junk food rice. Shortgrain-brown might have a similar-enough cooking time that they can be mixed together. I’m hazy on that, as I stopped eating rice years ago, replacing it with steel-cut oats.

            Or, who knows… maybe you could donate the sack to a food bank?

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        Afaik pretty much any kind of cereal with any kind of legume provide the essential amino acids needed by the body. Both of them have protein, but not the full set of amino acids that the body requires in a certain proportion.

        Idk about vitamins, though.

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    Alls I know is it isn’t ichiban noodles. I ate those for 3 straight weeks and almost lost my nails and hair.

    Nutrition is really important yo. Eat your veggies and balance your fibre and protein.

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      4 days ago

      I’ve often heard repeated that a human can live on water, potatoes, and salted butter basically indefinitely.

      Not sure how true, but seems plausible.

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    4 days ago

    Listen, taco bell has maybe 10-15 ingredients and has an infinite menu item…

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      god I miss Soylent. Cooking/eating is a huge burden for me (depressed and lazy) so I drank the heck out of Soylent when I was in the US. Now in Japan the only thing close is Calorie Mate and it’s not nearly as good/nutritious. :(

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        Not to be all “The safest way to ski is not to go skiing”, but throwing together a meal can be a way to exercise some agency during low days. Even if the food itself isn’t very healthy, the process can be good for you.

        I’ll soak some beans overnight and be forced to boil them the next day. The steps are individually low effort and spaced apart (and you can cook beans with zero onions etc if you want) and at the end you can find yourself sitting in front of a hot bowl of good ass beans and feel hey that was good for me.

        Hell, beans out of a can and tomato out of a can over rice out of a pouch can feel like you at least did something, you know? Delivery is relatively cheap where I live and getting into a cycle of being dependent on mass produced food really didn’t help me feel like I had a lot of control over what was happening in my life.

      • Cousin Mose@lemmy.hogru.ch
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        I’m in the US and have only ever had Huel. It’s an amazing product so I’d recommend that if it’s available there (the company started in the UK so it’s not US-centric at least).

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    Egg-bread & scrambled-eggs ( with a multivitamin every other day ) can get you FAR, ultra-cheap ( if you ever need to get through a month on nearly-nothing ).

    ( obviously this isn’t long-term, this is short-term-survival stuff )

    add-in carrots, if you can.

    A bit of broccoli makes a BIG difference in one’s health.

    Do what you can to get some omega-3’s into you: our bodies can’t make them, & if our bodies have to make omega-6’s & omega-9’s, apparently they just run mitochondria backwards, to do it.

    Even a tablespoon of olive-oil / day will help your body keep functioning.

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    For real, steak.

    Its the ultimate elimination diet

    Beef is very nutrient dense and contains all the nutrients a human needs

    The carnivore diet is a thing, and it is just: beef, water and salt.

    Most people who do this, do branch out after a while and add eggs, fish, liver etc

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      I’d be worried about purines. A diet of pure steak would likely lead to an insane case of gout, which is a buildup of uric acid crystals in your joints… which ranks pretty high on the list of excruciatingly painful things you can be diagnosed with.

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        It’s a good concern, but people doing zero carb and low carb do not see a increase in gout, quite the opposite. It seems that uric acid is a intermediate indicator and not causal of gout (which is principally drive by fructose)

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      While you can get all the nutrition you need from eating animals, you have to eat the organs as well. Also the stomach contents of herbivores even. Wolves eat the stomach contents of deer and such to get their green requirements, everyone needs some green in their diet. But liver, kidneys, most of the organs need to be consumed if you live on only animals.

      The germanics basically did for a long time. They ate meat, with a little cheese and milk products and a few veggies thrown in there, a negligible amount of grains, for a long time, including the years after they just appeared in central europe around the 1st century BC or so, there were celts and gauls before that in those areas, both broad terms of many groups to be sure.

      But they were all giants for the day, the men were all 6 foot and above, while the romans were more like 5’2" and subsisted mostly on lentils and grains, along with seafood, but very little meat, at least on campaigns. That extra size and bulk obviously didn’t do the germans much good in war, organization means more than brute strength ever could.

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      If we are counting singular food items, surely haggis would be a better choice for mixed nutritional values. Both are probably lacking vitamin C though so I hope you like scurvy.

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        Scurvy is a disease where cells are starved by vitamin c… Vitamin C gets into cells via the GLUT-4 transporter. This transporter moves both glucose and vitamin c. In the context of a zero carb diet there is no glucose competing for the glut-4 transporter, so the natural vitamin c levels in the meat are sufficient.

        We knew in napoleonic times that soliders with scurvy could be cured with a horse meat diet (it’s in the military medical books!)