• FancyPantsFIRE@lemmy.world
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    27 days ago

    At this point I think it’d be more notable if they didn’t find plastics in human tissues. It seems to be everywhere including in our brains, and that’s the bad kind of plasticity to have there.

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    27 days ago

    So to clarify for those who don’t want to read the article and a few supporting pieces, this is talking about the presence of plastic micro particles in plaques removed from patients.

    Removing the plaque can reduce the risk of stroke so it is done fairly frequently. When they took out the plaque they checked for polyethylene, common plastic for bottles, plastic containers, and similar uses, and for PVC, famous for pipes and incredibly sweaty pants.

    In both cases microplastics were found in the plaque. Both of these plastics have been shown to cause inflammation in other experiments where the plastic is introduced into the body.

    What they seem to be suggesting is that some amount of the inflammation around a plaque could be caused or enhanced by these microplastics.

    This study shows that in some plaques, about half of those examined, these two plastics were present. Previous studies have shown plastics can cause or enhance inflammation.

    This study does not show that plastics are the primary cause of heart disease. It also does not show how much of an impact microplastics have on the formation of plaques, how dangerous they are, or whether they grow.

    Because of the lack of information on how impactful microplastics are and the difficulty of reducing exposure the best evidence currently suggests focussing on removing the big known risks for heart disease. Those are smoking, alcohol, excessive sugar, burned or oxidised fats and oils, and a lack of physical activity. It would be wise to focus on those factors which we know cause heart disease rather than worrying about this small to nonexistent factor.

    • TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      27 days ago

      From an individual health perspective that makes sense, but not worrying about the extreme proliferation of plastic an unknown effects of bioaccumulation is probably really dumb on a societal level (and not worrying is clearly the path all or most developed countries have doubled down on).

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        26 days ago

        Within the hardened plaque it’s probably pretty inert. But I don’t know if there’s any data on that.

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      27 days ago

      My real question is, are they in any greater quantities than their found elsewere in the body?

      It was my understanding that we’ve found microplastics in the body everywhere including the brain.

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      27 days ago

      But microplastics are the current trendy health scare, distracting us from toxins with known mechanisms like motor exhausts and alcohol.

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    27 days ago

    It would be great if they could somehow test a bunch of the plastic inside you for its origin so you can sue them.

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      No, but you also don’t need to blame the cholesterol. Cholesterol is a marker we can easily test, so we use that to measure things, but blaming cholesterol is like blaming fire fighters for fires. Cholesterol levels go up when you have damage to your blood vessel walls because LDL covers damage like a scab covers a wound, then once the damage is healed HDL removes the LDL and leaves repaired vessel wall. If you try to lower LDL artificially you can reduce the blood levels and think things are better but really damage is just not being repaired as well as it should be. A better option is to reduce the initial cause of the damage and let the repair process happen more efficiently.

      Don’t smoke, don’t drink as much as possible, avoid huge amounts of sugar, exercise, sleep, and try to reduce stress. And then you can worry about not eating a credit card worth of plastic.

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      27 days ago

      Yeah, microplastics, not that bucket of fried chicken every day.