• Comment105@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    Hey Hexbear, if you’re dropping by, let me know when Russian and Chinese workers seize the means of production.

    In the meantime I’m sitting here oppressed in Norway.

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      10 months ago

      Not a commie, but didn’t the Norwegian people nationalize the oil production, leasing it out to companies while keeping a huge share of the profit for the welfare of common Norwegians?

      My understanding is that, in a sense, that is exactly what seizing the means of production is about.

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        10 months ago

        Controlling the natural resources a country and leasing it out it private companies is pretty standard practice in most non corrupt countries. Norway probably differs in that they capture more of the economic rent in part due to a more efficient tax and a share of public ownership.

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      10 months ago

      Polling says that Norway is #7 happiest country on Earth. Finland is #1, Denmark is #2…I wonder where China is on that list OwO

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      Bruh, we have oppressed people in Norway. Did you forget that our own supreme court ruled that some of our wind mills at Fosen are in violation of UN law of civil and political rights (source in Norwegian). That was two years ago and they are still standing, which is especially bad due to the historical repression and attempts at ethnic cleansing of Sámi people in Norway, that was going on for a disturbingly long time. Now, as a quick caveat I will add that on a global scale we are doing pretty alright. However, that you are fortunate and well, for which I am glad, does not mean that the sentiment of the meme is wrong. Since the 70s much of the good systems we built have been demolished by laissez-faire politics and politicians, like your beloved “Jern-Erna”, lowering corporate taxes and allowing for privatization of public services (our railway system, healthcare and so on). I also don’t think many people from Hexbear are deluded enough to believe in imminent revolution in Russia nor conflating the Russian government with the Communist Party of China (though I might suspect you do), making your comment either worthless or in bad faith (we both know it is both). Either way, I support seizing the means of production and voted for my convictions today. Even though I believe I probably fundamentally disagree with you, I hope you did too. Leave the “all communists are tankie fascists” idea at home please. It only makes you look ignorant and a bad representative for our nice little country.

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      10 months ago

      … You realize Norway is one of the examples we use of a successful socialist state right?

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        10 months ago

        norway isn’t socialist, but a social democracy where they move all the unethical labour somewhere else. it’s miles better than neoliberalism, but it’s still capitalist

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        10 months ago

        … You do realize we hear most internet communists we come across argue that we’d be so much better if we were run like Russian or China?

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          Those guys are idiots.

          Best solution for Norway is to continue exporting undesirable labor like they’ve been doing, until the oil runs out, out demand dries up. Not sure what you’ll do then but you won’t be alone anyway.

          It’s not best for everyone, by any means. But it’s best for Norway.

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            10 months ago

            Yeah best for everyone would be if we invaded Finland and put people in jail for bringing up history.