• mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    4 months ago

    molotow-ribbentrop was to buy time to prepare for war. They built a huge industrial complex east of the Ural to prepare since they correctly predicted that their facilities in the west would soon be overrun. They also tried to find allies but were shut down at every turn. When it was clear that there were no allies to be found and every other nation had made a non-aggression pact with the nazis only then did they resort to making their own.

    • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      11
      ·
      4 months ago

      I don’t think anyone thought the USSR did it for no reason. I’m just saying they could’ve chosen not to make those pacts and that’s why dividing Eastern Europe with the Nazis is given as a moral black mark for USSR.

      • mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        11
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        4 months ago

        Why? It bought them time to prepare further and gave them the possibility to station troops forward in land that they knew was gonna be overrun by nazis and need liberation afterwards anyway. I really don’t understand what’s so bad about it. You dont win wars with “moral points” but with strategy like that.

        • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          9
          ·
          4 months ago

          You’re asking why making a pact with the Nazis is a black mark? I would think that’s obvious. Same for Chamberlain and everyone else.

              • mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                8
                ·
                4 months ago

                They needed to buy time to prepare for war, it wasn’t until the nazi horde was in Stalingrad that they were ready to fight back. The nazis were going to conquer as much as they did regardless. There doesn’t seem to be any detrimental effect on reality to signing the pact.

                • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  4
                  arrow-down
                  6
                  ·
                  4 months ago

                  Meanwhile, your country was literally in the Axis in WW2, and helped the nazis carry out their atrocities.

                  Am I personally guilty of what happened in my country’s the past or how is that relevant?