This would be a lot more tinfoilesque were a court case on the matter not already underway in New York.
The missing votes uncovered in Smart Elections’ legal case in Rockland County, New York, are just the tip of the iceberg—an iceberg that extends across the swing states and into Texas.
On Monday, an investigator’s story finally hit the news cycle: Pro V&V, one of only two federally accredited testing labs, approved sweeping last-minute updates to ES&S voting machines in the months leading up to the 2024 election—without independent testing, public disclosure, or full certification review.
These changes were labeled “de minimis”—a term meant for trivial tweaks. But they touched ballot scanners, altered reporting software, and modified audit files—yet were all rubber-stamped with no oversight.
That revelation is a shock to the public.
But for those who’ve been digging into the bizarre election data since November, this isn’t the headline—it’s the final piece to the puzzle. While Pro V&V was quietly updating equipment in plain sight, a parallel operation was unfolding behind the curtain—between tech giants and Donald Trump.
There is basically zero actual evidence here. The argument basically goes “this could’ve happened, then this other thing could’ve happened, then a third thing could’ve happened, someone said something vaguely ominous in a group chat, and then something we all know is impossible happened: Donald Trump was elected President despite being obviously bad. There’s only one conclusion: the election was stolen and now we just need to track it down.” Read the article again and try to pick out the things that are shown to have actually happened and weren’t just suspicions or possibilities.
It doesn’t hold up for the same reasons the 2020 doubts didn’t hold up. Did they do this in every state? Because the results were pretty uniform across the country, it was a big swing right. It’d be the biggest and most successful conspiracy in history, getting away with rigging a wide variety of completely separate voting systems, many of which are heavily or entirely paper-based, many of which are run by blue states or weren’t even competitive, with no leaks and no discrepancies in any of the public records.
Or, maybe, just maybe, Biden was incredibly unpopular and Kamala didn’t run a good campaign, while Donald “I’ll fix everything and everyone will be rich” Trump promised to take action and not just continue the same policies for another four years, so people gave him another shot. “Oh, but he had felonies! Surely the electorate would never!” Yeah, they would. We elect terrible people all the time. He won. This isn’t productive.
The fact that more people signed sworn affidavits that they voted for Harris than tallied votes was enough for a judge to move to discovery makes this tonally different from the 2020 challenges that all failed. I don’t think Harris was a particularly great candidate, but that’s miles away from votes being miscounted.
You’re conflating and making false equivalencies between separate events.
Okay, sure. That’s one thing in one election that should be looked at, and if more comes up, great, chase that down too. There is a massive gap between that and “zomg the national election was totally stolen!”
The fact that more people signed sworn affidavits that they voted for Harris than tallied votes was enough for a judge to move to discovery makes this tonally different from the 2020 challenges that all failed.
I agree and I will be following the court case(s).
There’s plenty of evidence if you go look at the data. It’s been artificially smoothed.
Yes across all the tabulator machines. They started to shift votes once a given tabulator had counted 400 votes to mask it.
They went back and looked and seems the pattern was present in the past few elections. This is why Trump was so convinced the dems cheated. The people outvoted a vote shifting algorithm. They shifted votes after 600 min in the 2020 election.
They also found the algorithm that does this, the admin access password publicly on git, and the code used to flash the tabulators.
It’s absolutely nothing like Trumps batshit baseless claims.
Analysis for a few states out, 11 more underway.
This is why Trump was so convinced the dems cheated. The people outvoted a vote shifting algorithm.
See, this is exactly what the conservatives say when you ask “well, how did Trump win in 2016 and 2024 if the elections are rigged?” Obviously, the sheer power of True American Patriots overwhelmed the Democratic rigging. It’s not any more sensible when we do it.
I can’t say I read everything here, but what I did looked mostly like “these numbers seem funny to me.” Which is reason to look further, sure, but far short of definitive proof. Is there any reason to believe the vote tabulators were running this compromised code, or had default passwords set? Is there an independent statistics expert saying “they’re right, this is suspicious”? A confession by one of what must have been hundreds of co-conspirators in this, apparently, multi-year project that has perfectly evaded scrutiny until these folks found the truth? It’s an extraordinary claim, and the bar for believing it hasn’t even come close to being met.
Again, no, conservatives have ZERO fucking evidence. Trump got laughed out of courts by judges he appointed. He didn’t even try to lie he brought like tweets of pictures of people carrying boxes and said ‘look! Fraud!’
It was completely brain dead.
There are at least three independent groups who have been publicly researching it since just after the election. The group i linked also gave it to two separate independent researchers and made sure they came to the conclusions. The odds Trump could’ve won the way he did is one in 50 octillion
You telling me the guy who done a fake elector scheme, tried to solicit fake votes from states, and turn over the election illegitimately didn’t fucking try to cheat in every way possible? Give me a break. The dems didn’t check or knowingly turned a blind eye.
It wouldn’t have taken hundreds of people, very few. The lawsuits will progress, the bar for me giving it credibility is lack of a coherent debunk.
https://dissentinbloom.substack.com/p/im-not-saying-pennsylvania-was-stolen
https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-they-didnt-just-change-the
https://dissentinbloom.substack.com/p/the-machines-were-changed-before
The breathless reporting and big numbers immediately set off my BS detector. Usually, when a stat says something like “the odds of this happening purely by chance are 1 In a hojillion!” it’s just bad statistics, for example saying “even if each of my windows had a 75% chance of breaking in the hurricane, the odds that all of them would break is less than 1%, so clearly someone sabotaged my house!” No, they were all in the same hurricane, not independent random hurricanes, you can’t just multiply the probabilities like that. It’s very easy to do bad stats and come up with wild results.
It also looks like this is mostly focused on Pennsylvania, where there’s actually more to look at. Again, sure! It’s worth looking into. Let’s see evidence that this crosses state lines and isn’t just Pennsylvania. Let’s see evidence that the machines really were vulnerable and not just that they could’ve been. Let’s find someone who will name names and give specifics about this conspiracy. If this stuff is true, it’ll get picked up by more sober voices that aren’t yelling “it was stolen, it was stolen, don’t you all see???” and then it might be worth tuning in.
Of course they cheated, that’s MAGA’S entire brand. If they were absolutely sure that they’d win by an enormous margin, they’d STILL cheat.
The Dems have been trying to sell the concept that there were millions of people in swing states that voted straight Democratic tickets, except HitlerPig at the top.
Where are these people? I’m sure there were a few, but they are as rare as white squirrels. I have NEVER heard a single person claim to have voted Democratic except for HitlerPig, and I have never seen one speak in the media. There are supposed to be millions of them, so show me just one.
It’s a silly idea. Of course they cheated. I’d be more surprised if it were proven they didn’t cheat.
Okay, so where’s the massive exit poll discrepancy between who voters say they voted for and the official results? That would be a red flag worth paying attention to, if it showed inconsistent results between down ballot and top line races but only in states that used these supposedly compromised voting machines.
I have never seen one speak in the media.
We’re in agreement here, but it’s important to bear in mind that corporate media has already bent the knee. Being subjected to one of Trump’s tirades (and lawsuits) for reporting discrepancies isn’t good for shareholders, which is their audience – not readers, listeners or viewers … fuck, not even the ever-dwindling number of advertisers at this point.
Plus, I don’t think Mike Reed wants to be hauled before Congress to defend freedom of the press. He doesn’t believe in it in the first place.
Remember when we made fun of the Mypillow guy for spouting election conspiracy bullshit? Man, those were good times.
Sure, it feels better to go down the conspiracy rabbit hole than realize we probably shouldn’t have put up an animated corpse up against trump until it was too late.
Candidate quality and tally manipulation are separate issues. There’s enough here for a judge to move forward, so “but Biden” is a red herring. Lindell couldn’t produce a shred of evidence, and Giuliani et al. got laughed out court every time – more than 60 times.
Here we have a first challenge on 2024 where there’s this crazy thing called “evidence.” Is this a nationwide thing? I have no idea. But why would you flip the results in a rural New York county via software and leave it at that? That screams waste of coding resources.
While state attorneys general begin their investigations, it only takes one U.S. senator to initiate the disqualification proceedings against the unelected and unfit occupant of the Oval Office.
Good.
I don’t think this is true. There’s no mechanism for correcting a fixed election other than impeachment as far as I know, and that would require Republicans to play ball, and obviously they won’t. Not to mention that nothing in this post is backed up by any evidence, just “this could have happened.”
here’s no mechanism for correcting a fixed election
Yes, there is.
The 2nd Amendment.
