This should be the sticking point to invoke the 25th. Officials need to be loud and make a stink about how Trump can’t tell fact from clear fiction and therefore cannot perform the duties of the office. Make the people of America see the image on the news everyday and make those on his side say out loud if they think it’s fake or real. Half of the masses will never be convinced that he lacks the morality to lead until they’re already in his camps. This is the earliest clear as day moment to act on that which cannot be held to subjective scrutiny or partisanship.

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    That’s US Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, and they are.

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            that is both possible, and doesn’t invalidate that it’s also a nazi dog whistle

            that’s what ya get for using dog whistles constantly

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          “I’m just a history buff, even though I have literally shown zero indication that I give a shit about history in any other context”

          He has the preamble to the declaration of independence on his other arm lmao. I agree the guy’s most likely a neo Nazi but boy are your arguments dumb.

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            Oh sick! I too can put together a technically correct wall of text justifying a symbol ruined by fascism that has no initial fascist roots:


            The Hindu swastika, known in Sanskrit as svastika (स्वस्तिक), is an ancient and sacred symbol that predates many modern religions and is deeply woven into the spiritual and cultural fabric of Hinduism. Etymologically, svastika is derived from the root “su” (meaning “good” or “well”) and “asti” (“to be”), together forming a word that can be interpreted as “that which is associated with well-being” or simply “auspicious.” The swastika has been used in the Indian subcontinent for over 5,000 years, with archaeological examples appearing as early as the Indus Valley Civilization (c. 2500 BCE), long before its appropriation in modern history.

            In Hinduism, the swastika is a symbol of auspiciousness, prosperity, and good fortune. It represents the eternal nature of Brahman, the ultimate reality or universal soul in Hindu thought, and the cyclical nature of life, death, and rebirth (samsara). The symbol is deeply connected to cosmic order (ṛta) and balance. It is often drawn during rituals, festivals, and on temple entrances, doorways, and sacred objects to invoke divine blessings and protect against negative influences. It is also a common sight in Hindu weddings, religious ceremonies, and housewarmings, where it sanctifies the space and denotes sacred intent.

            Understanding the Hindu swastika requires acknowledging it as one of the world’s oldest sacred symbols, one that has long represented cosmic harmony, divine presence, and the pursuit of spiritual well-being. To reduce it solely to its modern misappropriation is to obscure millennia of profound spiritual meaning, making it essential to distinguish and respect its original, deeply rooted cultural context.


            Now let’s all go tattoo swastikas on our bodies; you go first!

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                Weird, seems to me most people in this thread saw it and said “oh hey, isn’t that a Nazi symbol?” so I’ll have to agree to disagree on that one, coach.

                Not to mention, the context here is also not being plastered on someone known for their devout Christianity or obsession with history or historic symbology.

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                    I think, with how quickly you responded, you may have missed the addendum I edited into my comment shortly after posting.

                    It unfairly makes your comment look like you completely ignored it, so felt I should bring your attention to it. My b.

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        They’re not necessarily all “Neo-Nazi,” but they’re definitely Neo-Nazi adjacent.

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        And a swastika represents “good fortune” and “well-being” in Hindu and other Indian cultures, concepts I would support, but I still wouldn’t get it tattooed on my body because of it’s other meanings.

        If this guy is ignorant of the more recent meanings, that is just as troubling as if he knew their modern interpretations. If someone had elaborate Nazi imagery all over their body, and they were truly ignorant of the meanings, I would not think that they possessed the intelligence and judgement to supervise any people or projects.

        Whether he knew about it or not, it’s a problem, and this guy is in charge of the Pentagon.

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        There is nothing wrong with categorizing symbols that are used for white supremacy and ethnic cleansing crusades as being “Nazi”.

        You don’t need to be a German soldier in the 1930s to be a Nazi. These types of “technically” corrections are not helpful and just play into doubt for people that don’t understand history. Like yourself apparently.

        Modern day Nazis aren’t tattooing swastikas. They’re running our businesses and our country.

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            You are the one not understanding the history. You are adding doubt to symbols of white supremacy. You are pointing to the Christian equivalent of an ISIS flag and telling us it’s not “neo Nazi”.

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                You are dealing with fascist and saying exactly what fascist would say to deny their symbols of white supremacy.

                It’s like pointing out that the swastika is a Hindu symbol when you see one tattooed on a fucking skin head Nazi punk. What point are you trying to make in that context?

                Do you get how it’s fucking useless to do this? And only plays into the fascist narrative of doubt? You’re being helpful only to fascist.

                You can be “technically correct” and still a fucking idiot for not understand what you’re doing.

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        Guy just comes over from reddit, uses reddit in his username, and proceeds to explain how the obviously nazi tattoos on the US Secretary of Defence are maybe not obviously nazi tattoos …

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            If you read you’ve probably heard about a little something called “Occam’s razor”.

            What’s the most probable answer, that a far right news host from a far right news channel is sporting his tattoos as a symbol of his love of history and the holy land, or that he’s sporting them because he’s a fucking nazi.

            Nobody is denying your “history” of the symbol. We’re all well aware of the “larger story”. But it’s irrelevant because there’s an approximate 99.99999% probability that the guy who doesn’t understand the wider history of the cross is the guy that’s fucking wearing them.

            You can write a thousand paragraphs “teaching people” all you want, but it’s totally irrelevant in this situation and you are only doing it in order to obfuscate the issue with meaningless nonsense.