As the title says, you NEED to go read this guy’s book if you were ever unsure about who he is as a person and if he is progressive. I started reading this yesterday and am almost a third of the way through already. The way he explains markets and economics and how they can be utilized to fight climate change and our biggest issues is fascinating.
So far I can see that this man is legit and he wants to see Canada leading the world economically and morally. We have a golden opportunity here and any fiscal conservative should see this guy as the number one guy for the job. We had our time with Trudeau laying the foundation for a lot of social justice for the next quarter century, and now Carney is here to focus more on the economy and scale it to make us a global super power. Never before have I found economics so interesting and this book of his is really opening my eyes about the history and functions of markets.
Ok, off I go to continue!
Superpower? Alright no need to chug the Kool aid this hard, let’s wait until you find a chapter where he wants to develop a nuclear triad.
He’s a traditional liberal which means not all that progressive beyond what’s popular socially. Good for the wealthy fiscally, and maintained decline for everyone else. If you want to see what it’ll be, look at the UK while he was heading up BoE. Or any Canadian Liberal government through the 90s-00s.
Despite all this he and his party obviously remain the superior choice to PP, but let’s not kid ourselves. He’s not going to neolib us into utopia.
I’ll take another four years of neolib liberal assholes fucking us, but only because of the Americans threatening to make us part of America and seeing the con candidates be all hot and horny for helping them. I fucking hate strategic voting but I’ll do it before letting burgerlanders control us.
Hey, happy cake day. Here’s hoping we get proportional rep eventually.
I mean I’d love that. I feel like it’s not asking a lot at this point.
I hate it too. But goddamn we will be so much better off with the liberals at the helm then the conservatives. They are actively ruining their image for decades to come with all this bullshit and being similar to the USA conservatives (who are batshit insane). And with the conservatives coming out guns blazing with tax cuts, spening promises and protecting all the programs the liberals and NDP put into place (dental, pharma and childcare) when they voted hard against it…
Yeah, I mean I’ll do it, but I’m going to fucking complain the entire time.
As you and the rest of us should to any politician. The most important thing about not voting for Pierre is that he has openly stated that he is not against using the not withstanding clause nationally just like the other conservative premiers across the country. For shit that isn’t a national emergency at all
I wish our citizens understood the practicality of this. Unfortunately we either have conservative assholes or idiot leftists both which seem to hate Democrats more than they care about making their own lives better or the lives of others better.
lol the democrats have zero interest in making your lives better.
L take lol
TBF popularity is definitional for winning an election. If you want to move what’s acceptable you don’t primarily do that by voting.
He was governor of the BoE during Brexit… There really isn’t much you can do as a governor of the national bank in such stupidity. And Canada can absolutely be a super power, our landmass, resources and technical know-how can allow us to prosper and lead on the global stage. Canada is a great example of a country of the future, where we don’t rely on wars to settle differences. Carney supports childcare, dental care, boosting the GIS for seniors, pharma care, and everything the liberals did under trudeau minus the consumer carbon tax. And he’s replacing it.
Canada doesn’t need nuclear weapons, does Iraq ring a bell to you how the USA straight up invaded and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people because of “rumors” of WMDs? And the weakest Intel? That kind of talk can gtfo
This seems completely uncritical of Carney and Canada for that matter. The future isn’t going to be lead without force because a middle power elects a prime minister with some good ideas about markets.
We don’t need to rely on wars? We rely on exploitation even without it- ask any country where our mining firms operate with lax regulation. Hell, we’ve participated in “coalitions of the willing” in invasions and aerial bombings for corporate giants too. Most of this country is content to think the first Nations just decided to give us the land.
I’m happy to vote for more years of basically Trudeau lite and I have no illusions about it.
Exactly! We can all see the lesser of two evils, but why lie to ourselves about the reality of the situation just to make our vote feel better? Glorifying Carney and the libs only serves to make the NDP seem even less likely to win if we just pretend that Carney will save the markets AND the planet, AND Canada as a country….Maybe let’s just be objective about who he is and what our country stands for. There’s a reason we’re seen as the US’s little brother and it’s not completely unwarranted.
The lesson of Iraq is not develop no nukes or the USA might invade you. The lesson of Iraq is that even if you definitely don’t have any WMDs the US might lie about it anyways and justify invading you with the lie.
That being said, I think there’s still an argument not to do proliferation even if it would be easier to.
It’s kind of interesting he hasn’t paid for that in any way, as far as I can tell. In a different election you might see people painting him as a supporter or at least an enabler of it.
That would be so fucking whack since the governor of a national bank is apolitical. They do not and should not comment on political matters and only focus on tuning the countries fiscal mechanisms in response to political decisions. That’s why Pierre yapping about “firing” the governor of our bank is a big no no for me. The financial levers of your country should never be politicised or influences by politics because that how you get Zimbabwe dollars.
Governor of a national bank is absolutely not apolitical. Stephen Harper or the British Conservatives weren’t going to appoint a Marxian economist to the position no matter what kind of resume they might have. Their appointees are going to be politically copacetic.
Buddy, all I’m saying is that a governor of a national bank SHOULDNT be influenced by politicians. It’s not that deep
And what I’m saying is that the governor is a politician. Economics isn’t a science like physics is a science. Their decisions are going to be coloured by their ideology.
The governor of a national bank is simply not a politician… They are appointed by a politician, yes. But they aren’t voted in… And to say that economics isn’t a science is… Fucking bold buddy. Gotta lay off the fent and brocasts
Do politicians only exist in democratic states, then? A governor of a national bank is absolutely making political decisions. They are a politician.
What I said was, economics isn’t a science like physics is a science. It is a social science. Economists like to develop very complicated mathematical models to mask that fact, but the foundations those models are based on aren’t natural laws like a physicist might work with. They are based on ideological assumptions.
Uh huh.
Yeah, a lot about political discourse is fucking whack. It has been especially bad lately, although TBH there wasn’t a period in history where it was great.
I mean, sure we “can”, just like many others can like Argentina or Norway… but this superpower thing is a bit tired. Let’s just worry about not being pushed around instead of aiming for pushing others around - because that’s what being a superpower means, really.