Stemming from this post https://lemmy.world/post/25792088

This is why some don’t see the problem with .ml, they’re way more subtle. And to those I say look:

This comment was removed by a .ml mod in that thread and the user banned:

And yet, another comment from a .ml user referencing .world instead, but essentially says the same thing as @[email protected]s comment is allowed to stay up just fine for hours.

Why was that not removed? Where is their ban?

Just .ml Tankie things ig

  • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    1 day ago

    The ellipses indicated I wasn’t forming a beach head with the point. It’s just the ‘okay we will make our own place’ comic in practice, which might’ve been an easier and more succinct thing to post.

    • PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
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      1 day ago

      In that case, you should be in full support of other instances defederating .ml, grad, and Hexbear.

      Wouldn’t want to invade their space, right?

      Unless all of your arguments are disingenuous bullshit, wherein the values espoused change depending on whether they serve the end goal of tankie apologia.

      • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        1 day ago

        Alright I’ll bite:

        This instance is already defederated from grad, which seems too eliminate the vast majority of problems as I see it. So I’d support other instance’s decisions there to defederate.

        Defederating .ml seems premature and unnecessary since the issues are either users who aren’t actually bound by instance, or moderation practices which is not worth defederating over. I mostly think .ml isn’t a problem as an instance so federating with them helps other instances grow if people get kicked out of there. Though if .ml gets reduced to a few niche communities like lemmygrad or hexbear, then yeah, defederation wouldn’t be much of an issue then.

        Hexbear users you know I think are funny, but they’re so defederated up I know other instances may not even get a chance to do it. So that’s just a freebie anyway.

        • PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
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          1 day ago

          This instance is already defederated from grad, which seems too eliminate the vast majority of problems as I see it. So I’d support other instance’s decisions there to defederate.

          Wait, what problems do you see with Grad? Didn’t you just say you didn’t see tankies as a problem, and that anyone turned off from Lemmy by genocide denial is hilarious anyway?

          Defederating .ml seems premature and unnecessary since the issues are either users who aren’t actually bound by instance, or moderation practices which is not worth defederating over.

          Okay, I’m not in full support of defederating .ml. I get it.

          But in that case, what’s the problem, exactly, you were trying to express with:

          It’s just the ‘okay we will make our own place’ comic in practice, which might’ve been an easier and more succinct thing to post.

          I mostly think .ml isn’t a problem as an instance so federating with them helps other instances grow if people get kicked out of there.

          … how does that make sense. How does federating with .ml help other instances grow when people are kicked out of .ml? How does federating with them provide any benefit when people are kicked out of .ml? There’s no federated ‘transfer your account’ option.

          • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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            1 day ago

            federating with .ml help other instances grow when people are kicked out of .ml? How does federating with them provide any benefit when people are kicked out of .ml? There’s no federated ‘transfer your account’ option.

            There doesn’t seem to be as much or the same conflicts with .ml users in communities outside .ml versus .ml communities having overbearing mods that ban people. So the federation isn’t so much the issue there. I much prefer the trend of people going to and making communities on instances where the powertrippers aren’t tripping as opposed to calling for defederation. Federation with users across the largest instances is a good thing.

            Defederating means a lot of people would have to make new accounts anyway. Grad and hexbear are niche enough that defederating is closer to banning a group of users. .ml would excise a whole lot of users who aren’t even the tankies of concern.

            • PugJesus@lemmy.worldMEnglish
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              1 day ago

              There doesn’t seem to be as much or the same conflicts with .ml users in communities outside .ml versus .ml communities having overbearing mods that ban people. So the federation isn’t so much the issue there. I much prefer the trend of people going to and making communities on instances where the powertrippers aren’t tripping as opposed to calling for defederation. Federation with users across the largest instances is a good thing.

              Defederating means a lot of people would have to make new accounts anyway. Grad and hexbear are niche enough that defederating is closer to banning a group of users. .ml would excise a whole lot of users who aren’t even the tankies of concern.

              None of that actually answers the question I asked, or clarifies the point you made that I was asking about.