• corsicanguppy
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    4 days ago

    Democrats fielded someone who wasn’t a criminal IN A BINARY CHOICE.

    It’s baffling how stupid people are. Just vote for the person who isn’t a rapist bent on destroying the country. Like “see the man-child who can’t keep his hands to himself? Vote for the candidate who isn’t him.”

    Stop whining that Dems didn’t field mother Theresa.

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      Stop whining that Dems didn’t field mother Theresa.

      I voted for Harris, but she was an accessory to Biden’s genocide of Palestine. So don’t pretend like she was a decent candidate. Her refusal to condemn genocide was monsterous and made her completely unfit for office, but she just happened to be the lesser evil so I voted for her.

      Our system is just rotten beyond redemption. Conservatives ratchet the country towards oligarchy while Liberals act as bulwark against socialist reform that would actually help the working class.

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        Oh for fucks sake.

        It’s been ages now, it’s getting to be like that all over the world. You don’t vote for a candidate. You vote against the raving lunatics. It’s starting to be like that everywhere. Do you really think you’re going to find a politician you’re going to want to vote for? What are you? 8?

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          If this is true (it isn’t) then why didnt Harris stand for Palestine, or even something basic like healthcare for all?

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          Liberals: genocide is ok with us so long as our team wins.

          Is the bar for candidates in fucking hell? How about you grow up and gain a fucking conscience? This isn’t John Kerry in 2004 this is a fucking genocider.

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            People keep defending not voting for Harris by saying she was for “genocide”. But not voting for Harris allowed genocide on a scale that voting for Harris never would have -> so people who are clearly FOR genocide keep saying they avoided voting for Harris because they are somehow against genocide…

            The original was saying they voted, so not in this particular case, except where they are saying the same thing, but I keep seeing that Harris=genocide response on here every other day, when we can clearly see (and from project 2025 could clearly see a year earlier) that the other option was a full blown nazi state which will kill millions. Got a very easy option to stop it before it started, with the added bonus that the Harris government would have been more responsive to protests (at this point, anything would have been more responsive to protests) and could have been then pressured to not go along with the Israeli occupation. Instead these people choose (and are keeping to defend their choice) to kill a few millions out of… idk, spite? Including the people they are claiming to protect by not choosing Harris. Especially them.

            And right now I’m not sure if they are horrified by the blood that will be on their hands (better option) or trying to push the “don’t support the dems no matter what” narrative to stop any coherent movement (propaganda bots). I’m guessing the latter in most cases, because they include AOC, who would definitely organize, IF there was some support which there isn’t.

            Everybody’s so very sure the “other side” is blindsided by propaganda, but the fact is that both sides are blindsided by propaganda. It’s pushing the nazis to act and pushing the woke to sit back and wait or run around like headless chicken and backstab their own. But you are both pushed.

            tl;dr: the Harris=genocide narrative will still cause harm by stopping any support for dems organizing which is why social media is flooded with it right now

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              it’s amazing how you turned ‘i voted for harris but genocide is bad’ into ‘he supports trump’ as if there exists no other democrat

              fuck off with you dishonest framing

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              Stop blaming voters and start blaming democrats. It’s THEIR fault they lost to fascist criminal when they ran a genocider and refused to hold a primary

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                Stop blaming your tools for what you do with them. Letting them run unchecked is what led here. Politicians should be kept in line by replacing them if they misbehave. People didn’t do that, people stopped doing that decades ago, and now everybody is playing shocked Pikatchu.

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                  I voted in every election and every primary since I was old enough to vote. It doesn’t matter. They don’t work for us they work for their donors, the capitalists.

                  And of the so called “left” in this country has been so distracted by virtue signaling performative identity politics that while the right wing stuffed the courts and school boards the “left” put pronouns in their bios, painted rainbows in the road and marched with pussy hats on. Performative nonsense.

                  Meanwhile the actual left that never took their eyes off the prize - class consciousness and fighting capitalism - they’ve never had any power at all in this country. Remember how the democrats tried to smear Bernie sanders as sexist and racist? Because he dared to initially stay focused purely on economic and foreign policy issues? And Bernie was a compromise! He’s a milquetoast social democrat. The liberals will paint rainbows in the road and wear kente cloth and kneel in congress but they’re never gonna piss off their corporate donors.

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      Harris is a neoliberal in favor of genocide and Israel. If she wanted to win all she had to do was stand for Palestine and/or healthcare.

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        Harris is a neoliberal in favor of genocide and Israel. If she wanted to win all she had to do was stand for Palestine and/or healthcare.

        and yet the guy who thought bombing gaza with a nuclear bomb would be a good idea was the one that won the election, so you’re working uphill against a slippery slope with that argument my friend, because it seems like, nobody really gave a fuck.

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        The sad truth is that a large portion of our countrymen do not care about Gaza. The Dem’s are wasting time on what is essentially a minority issue in this country. It’s not an election winning topic here. They need to focus on the economy at home first and foremost. The majority are short sighted and selfish and as I get older I genuinely question if a true democracy is even possible when the masses are so easily swayed by social media and bullshit. Just to be clear I’m not advocating for fascism, I just don’t have any ideas.