• sahqon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        4 days ago

        People keep defending not voting for Harris by saying she was for “genocide”. But not voting for Harris allowed genocide on a scale that voting for Harris never would have -> so people who are clearly FOR genocide keep saying they avoided voting for Harris because they are somehow against genocide…

        The original was saying they voted, so not in this particular case, except where they are saying the same thing, but I keep seeing that Harris=genocide response on here every other day, when we can clearly see (and from project 2025 could clearly see a year earlier) that the other option was a full blown nazi state which will kill millions. Got a very easy option to stop it before it started, with the added bonus that the Harris government would have been more responsive to protests (at this point, anything would have been more responsive to protests) and could have been then pressured to not go along with the Israeli occupation. Instead these people choose (and are keeping to defend their choice) to kill a few millions out of… idk, spite? Including the people they are claiming to protect by not choosing Harris. Especially them.

        And right now I’m not sure if they are horrified by the blood that will be on their hands (better option) or trying to push the “don’t support the dems no matter what” narrative to stop any coherent movement (propaganda bots). I’m guessing the latter in most cases, because they include AOC, who would definitely organize, IF there was some support which there isn’t.

        Everybody’s so very sure the “other side” is blindsided by propaganda, but the fact is that both sides are blindsided by propaganda. It’s pushing the nazis to act and pushing the woke to sit back and wait or run around like headless chicken and backstab their own. But you are both pushed.

        tl;dr: the Harris=genocide narrative will still cause harm by stopping any support for dems organizing which is why social media is flooded with it right now

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          4 days ago

          it’s amazing how you turned ‘i voted for harris but genocide is bad’ into ‘he supports trump’ as if there exists no other democrat

          fuck off with you dishonest framing

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          3 days ago

          Stop blaming voters and start blaming democrats. It’s THEIR fault they lost to fascist criminal when they ran a genocider and refused to hold a primary

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            3 days ago

            Stop blaming your tools for what you do with them. Letting them run unchecked is what led here. Politicians should be kept in line by replacing them if they misbehave. People didn’t do that, people stopped doing that decades ago, and now everybody is playing shocked Pikatchu.

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              2 days ago

              I voted in every election and every primary since I was old enough to vote. It doesn’t matter. They don’t work for us they work for their donors, the capitalists.

              And of the so called “left” in this country has been so distracted by virtue signaling performative identity politics that while the right wing stuffed the courts and school boards the “left” put pronouns in their bios, painted rainbows in the road and marched with pussy hats on. Performative nonsense.

              Meanwhile the actual left that never took their eyes off the prize - class consciousness and fighting capitalism - they’ve never had any power at all in this country. Remember how the democrats tried to smear Bernie sanders as sexist and racist? Because he dared to initially stay focused purely on economic and foreign policy issues? And Bernie was a compromise! He’s a milquetoast social democrat. The liberals will paint rainbows in the road and wear kente cloth and kneel in congress but they’re never gonna piss off their corporate donors.