So, I saw a report from one of my users. They reported:
https://ponder.cat/post/1594852/1813842
For the reason:
Unreasonable fighting with everyone in every simple post
I think that’s ridiculous, so I talked with them about it. Posting private communications is frowned upon I guess, but long story short, they weren’t receptive. I’ve decided to ban the account.
IMO the general culture on Lemmy is that users are entitled to their free account and everyone needs to be careful and circumspect about limiting that entitlement in any way, but I don’t see it that way. I don’t think it’s a requirement for me to provide hosting space for anyone who wants to use my stuff as a jumping-off point for abuse of Lemmy’s systems, and isn’t apologetic or receptive when I talk with them about not doing that. The fact that it’s in service of harassing FlyingSquid in particular is just icing on the cake, since my perception is that people like to harass him apparently for no legitimate reason at all (with this as an example).
AITA?
I’ve seen them posting in communities and instances they have previously been banned from. If they made an attempt to avoid it that would be one thing but they don’t.
I’m almost certain they are ban evading with their alts.
If you have, then DM admins directly about that. They probably mod those communities as well, so reports never reach the admins
But if I am posting to my own community that I have NOT been blocked from, and on an instance I have NOT been blocked from, how would that be ban evasion?
I posted some timestamps of them switching to an alt I don’t have blocked, specifically so they can comment on my posts and I will see it. Happy to send the logs in question if anyone wants to see without digging through their own database.
Name one. Provide examples. Lots of admins talk to each other. So let’s see some proof of what you have seen.
The vast, vast majority of my posting is to my own communities. But I’m totally fine with you showing some screen shots of where you have seen me posting to places I am banned from with–time stamps to show that they were posted AFTER any ban. PhiliptheBucket seems to have every timestamp of everything I am posting and even he is not accusing me of what you just have.
So give me an example of where you have seen me posting to a banned instance and/or community AFTER I was banned.
But you just said you’ve seen me posting in communities and on instances I’ve been banned from. Now you are saying “almost certain.”
So which is it? Did you see me like you said above or are you “almost certain?”
And if you are so sure of it it, did you report those to the admin? And do you have examples? Let’s have a look.
I keep the same fucking username. So it would be pretty hard for me to post in communities that I’m banned from. Seems like the mods could spot it right away.
If wanted to ban evade, wouldn’t it be easier to just come up with a random name and then post wherever I wanted?
And again, guys. I am NOT the subject of OP’s original post. This is all off-topic. This thread is not about me. Let it go!
You were caught here in the act posting to communities on an instance you were banned from.
Nope. Read the entire thing. That’s a robotic ban that the the mod, auk, admitted was a ban that I would know nothing about. In fact, after reviewing, auk said: As I said under the other post, I do believe this evasion was entirely unintentional, for the reasons you outlined.
And later the mod, auk, said of my participation: I’m not planning to set the bot up to notify dozens of users about their bans in a community they have never posted in and don’t care about. Notice it says “never posted in and don’t care about.”
And the admin of that instance and other instances agreed that I couldn’t have known about the ban because it was robotic. Other users also agreed look at the subs modlog, users who HAVE NEVER POSTED THERE GET BANNED without their knowing: https://sh.itjust.works/post/27848698
Which is why I didn’t get banned from that instance after admin review. Funny how you left out those details. Screenshot proof of convo:
Also caught cloning other users…
Wasn’t “caught” doing anything. I haven’t closed other users. Do you have proof of this?
I use my own name across several instances. I haven’t cloned or copied anyone.
What?
Still waiting on proof that I cloned or copied anyone’s username. You brought up, so show us the proof.
This is a community about proof of accusations. So show us.
Woah glad you caught that, just gave a ping to sopuli.xyz’s admins on the page hopefully they’ll respond soon and deal with that.
Already done, and I asked them to removed accounts that were cloned/parodying me as well. I wasn’t the one who cloned anyone or anything.
Please provide proof to me, this audience, and the admins if you have any proof.
He has a few other alts as well, but it’s not exactly my day job to keep detailed notes. However, I am sick of his shit and that dude is a fucking cockroach.
TBH, I don’t think it’s really against any rules to dup a username across instances as SMCF is actually on .world. However, this is being done with malice and should be addressed. UM must have been holding a grudge from when he was banned from .world.
As in alt names or instances? Because i have no alt names. If you don’t have proof, then don’t falsely accuse.
Please show us the proof.
Then why bring it up?
You have no proof of this. Please show posts where I have malice.
No, YOU have been holding a grudge from that. Let it go. It was before the election. I didn’t vote for Harris. And she lost. But her loss wasn’t my fault. Get over it.
I told you to quit mumbling. I can’t hear a word you are saying.
I’ve reported you for false accusations. Funny how everytime I have a counterpoint, you ask me to quit mumbling. I’ve made myself quike clear.
Unless you have proof, don’t accuse.
Honestly, I think the issue is that it really is a job, and there isn’t anyone who’s really well-positioned to take charge of it.
Any system which allows easy, anonymous account creation is going to be subject to some level of abuse. Any system which does that, and also is distributed among multiple instances with admins who don’t always see eye-to-eye on things, is going to be absolutely helpless in the face of even a very rudimentary attempt at abuse, and anyone who wants to will be able to run rings around the admins and just kind of run around doing whatever they want. Telling people “just block the obnoxious people on whatever new accounts they make when they get banned” obviously isn’t the answer, but it’s what people fall back on because it is the only thing that can be relied upon to work.
I think Bluesky’s idea of federating out block lists (basically, as I understand it) is probably the most straightforward non-awful way. You don’t want to make every new user encounter every obnoxious person and learn, one by one, who they are and that they need to block them. That way lies madness.
I’m fine with that. In fact, I’d love you all to just block me rather than create new thread all the time trying to ban me from the fediverse–simply because you don’t like news articles that I post. lol
Please, please, please work on that.
As I have always said, block me and ignore me. But banning is just silencing disagreeing opinions.
I have a right to say what I want. You have the right to ignore me. But I am allowed to be here.
Not sure how much clearer I can make it. I would love to be able to block and move on, that’s what I did. You are committed to not respecting the block, taking actions from new alts which will send me notifications, and then lying in this strange fashion about it. I understand why you’re pretending that’s not what you did. But I’m happy to provide proof in the form of screenshots or anything else. Or, any admin can verify it.
You are allowed to be here, sure. Everyone is. You’re not allowed to violate the rules of the space. And, when someone’s sufficiently unrepentant about not respecting the rules of the space, they lose their right to be here. Your commitment to going beyond “saying what you want” and instead, among other things, starting to harass and irritate other users deliberately when they exercise their right to say what they want, is exactly what keeps losing you accounts. That’s the system protecting itself.
Shared block lists could be implemented into the clients as well, but it would take a bit to keep those from getting abused and wouldn’t scale over time too well.
But yeah, this is a major issue with Lemmy and is probably the major reason I don’t think this platform can scale up to Reddit size. Once trolls take over, everyone will leave.
Yeah I agree, having multiple accounts with the same username is okay when your intention isn’t to cause malice. When one is doing it to impersonate/namesquat or just to troll and ban evade then it’s a problem. It’s part of why I have as many as I do. It makes it extremely difficult for people to impersonate me, except on the handful of excommunicated instances I never signed up to but those will be very clearly recognized as impersonation.
Ok, then why bring all the stuff up? And I’m not even the subject of this thread.
Which I have never done.
So you are jumping on this bandwagon attacking me, and you have multiple freakin usernames on multiple instances? Say wat bro?! You were just pointing out how terrible i was for being multiple instances!
I frankly don’t believe you and I don’t think you believe that yourself. You’ve been caught in the act both for impersonation and ban evasion. You are not innocent here and if you were you should’ve appealed instead of making more accounts.