Well this book from the Bronze Age which has consistently been wrong about everything has some sentence that may or may not indicate that this thing is bad.
Don’t even get me started in biblical abortion.v
Here, I’ll do it for you - the Bible contains instructions for a ritual in which if a man believes his pregnant wife was unfaithful and the child is not his the priest can mix a potion from bitter water and dust from the floor of the temple and administer it. If she was unfaithful then by the power of God her pregnancy will terminate. If it doesn’t, this is unquestionable proof of paternity from God himself. This is often described as proof the Bible contains directions for abortion, despite the method of action being divine intervention and it only working in cases of infidelity.
In any context other than trying to argue for abortion against members of Abrahamic faiths, the same passages would be used as an example of Biblical misogyny and punishing women for having sex.
That misspelling changes your comment drastically. You’re somehow inside a biblical abortion and also turned off, and don’t want to be turned on until it’s done.
Its so tiresome to see people wave around the Gospels while screaming “Transgenderism is Against God!” right before the hit the BUY button on another stack of themed Funkopops to add to their
pagan altarcurio cabinet.
“This doesn’t affect me at all? I will be obsessed over it every day and BURN IT TO THE GROUND”
“I never gave a shit about high school girls sports in my life, and made fun of the WNBA since its inception, but I’ll be damned if a trans person competing in any way or any thing isn’t my hill to die on!”
It hurt itself in its confusion!
That doesn’t sound very free as in freedom.
It certainly isn’t free as in beer either in America!
We using transsexual? I mean its more technically appropriate but I thought that wasnt the preferred term.
Older trans people often preferred the term. It’s fallen out of fashion, but some people still use it. I still saw it a lot on forums in the mid-naughts - mostly the ones that had boomer age trans women.
Woah, help a friend out.
I think they are saying they prefer transgender?
I haven’t heard anything about that word being offensive tho.
It’s not offensive, it’s just medically inaccurate. We’re not changing our sex, we’re changing our gender.
I suppose it could be offensive in that it misrepresents trans people’s understanding of what hormones do, but it’s really not a huge deal if I’m being honest. It does also have an air of old-timey gender politics, though, which does always come with a foul taste…
This also may not be a native English speaker.
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Depends on the person but a lot of trans people consider it offensive. Transgender is more of a blanket term and transsexual usually relates to surgical changes. For instance I’m transgender because of my internal feelings and desire for specific social interactions but I also consider myself transsexual because of the surgeries I’ve had (but 99% of the time will just say I’m transgender because it’s a lot easier than going into all this). Transsexual was used as a blanket term in a way that doesn’t vibe with a lot of trans people and was/is used as a slur, and more recently it has found a place with truscum/transmedicalist types furthering it’s problematic nature
Ohh ok. I mean, I was looking at the root word as gender the social construct and sex (typically XX, XY). I thought the idea is if a trans person could choose to change sexes, they would (science, magic wand, whatever to go XX to XY or XY to XX).
Correct response: i dont care, fuck you, im gonna protect my trans homies and theyre gonna protext themselves.
Classic america
My bad. I was tired and forgot that was a word!
TBF most people don’t have any problem with “I take my medication in private.” Some people do, but most people don’t.
It’s the
“and you have to pay for it when I’m in prison.”
And
“You have to let me play sports against biological girls. You can’t make me play sports against boys - it has to be girls”.
And
Trans women that demand to use the women’s restrooms before they are effectively transitioned.
Those things effect such a vanishingly small number of people, but they are perfect wedge issues. The LGBT+ community has spent its entire political capital on those three issues. They have failed to make a cogent argument that convinces people outside of the community that these are necessary things.
The damage has been profound.
Paying for inmates’ medication seems fair because they can’t go to work to pay for it. The cost must be negligible compared to the total costs of imprisonment.
Normal people don’t care about sports or restrooms, doesn’t matter who goes where. It’s just some cis-Karens and trans-Karens screeching at each other. And isn’t Trump banning all mentions of gender anyway, so all sports and restrooms must be unisex from now on?
Also, in the U.S., inmates are literally slaves. Because that is specified under the 14th amendment. I would say providing slaves with medical care so they don’t kill themselves is literally showing the tiniest possible shred of humanity you can show. But apparently that’s still too much.
The cost must be negligible compared to the total costs of imprisonment.
Yeah, but a for-profit prison doesn’t want to pay that extra cost if they can avoid it. Kinda like how in a lot of states there’s a constant tug of war between Medicaid and Corrections over who is responsible for which medical treatment for which inmates. Not just for trans stuff, but for everything.
Your second two points just aren’t happening at any sort of scale (and your first point is shitty and evil). Most trans people are terrified and carefully plan out the first time they’ll use a restroom - checking with friends if they pass - because, ya know, you can get the shit kicked out of you/killed in many places. Sports is a non issue that affects probably less than a hundred people in the entire country.
We are an excellent target of propaganda. The right wing platforms one or two crazy trans people and than that becomes representative of all trans people. It doesn’t matter what we do, because we are easy to Other.
I agree first point is evil and third should really be a non issue. But you may want to avoid using this strategy:
Your second two points just aren’t happening at any sort of scale
Since you probably want voters to care about trans issues, despite them not having anywhere the scale many other voter issues have. Comes across a bit hypocritical to say we should not care how these points affect a different small group of people.
This is all such a strawman argument
“and you have to pay for it when I’m in prison.”
Yeah, isn’t it so terrible for checks notes incarcerated people with no income to pay for medical insurance to have access to necessary healthcare…? Seriously though, you know for a fact ‘trans people in prison getting healthcare’ is not the issue that people have with the trans community, because if it was, the legislation would tackle only this. Instead, the issue seems to be with our very existence, hence the denying trans people exist, hence the branding trans people as pedophiles, etc
“You have to let me play sports against biological girls. You can’t make me play sports against boys - it has to be girls”.
Again, where is the proof? Which untransitioned trans woman has ever actually said this? And, for transitioned trans women, why does the issue of childrens sports teams need to be regulated by the federal government? Consider the following study: “Limited evidence suggests that physical performance of nonathletic trans people who have undergone GAHT for at least 2 years approaches that of cisgender controls. Further controlled longitudinal research is needed in trans athletes and nonathletes.”
In my opinion, the question of “trans people in sports” is one for science, not one for politics. For instance, perhaps for sports like running, a trans woman can compete in women’s sports after 2 years of gender-affirming hormone therapy (“After 2 years of GAHT, no advantage was observed for physical performance measured by running time or in trans women”). For sports like rowing, you could have it be 4 years (“By 4 years, there was no advantage in sit-ups”)
Trans women that demand to use the women’s restrooms before they are effectively transitioned.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen any sort of video evidence that trans women are actually doing this. The trans community gets harrassed so much most untransitioned trans women either go to the mens bathroom or just hold it.
The LGBT+ community has spent its entire political capital on those three issues.
The LGBT+ community has absolutely not focused on these issues, at all. Rather, right-wing think tanks like FOX News keep pushing false narratives down the general public throat, misrepresenting what the LGBT+ community wants (to have hormone replacement therapy and gender affirming surgery on the market, to not be legislated out of existence, to not be discriminated against or hate crimed, etc) into some BS strawman seemingly only constructed to make the trans community look unreasonable, or something.
The LGBT+ community has absolutely not focused on these issues, at all.
Yeah - housing and employment protections are too reasonable requests to get media attention. If the media platformed that conversation, we might come across as human beings deserving of empathy - can’t have that.
Like I’m burnt the fuck out. I don’t care about high school athletics - I just want to not lose my job two weeks after I get it because I have the wrong genitals.
Yeah - housing and employment protections are too reasonable requests to get media attention.
Gotta get them clicks. This isn’t out there enough to see coverage, it’s just too reasonable. Hard to click-bait.
I think it also contributes to a kind of invisibility of the issue. People seem to passively think that all forms of job discrimination are illegal and don’t happen. It’s a significant part of why I don’t talk to family anymore.
Getting fired from gig work cleaning bird shit off bleachers because my drivers license had an “f” on it just isn’t a fun story. The survival sex work I resorted to afterwards might I guess.
Here is the question I keep asking them about trans people in sports, especially trans girls in sports: how do you want the grade schools to determine who is or is not biologically female?
I am sure you will not be surprised that they don’t have a good answer considering the only even somewhat viable ones would be “look at the genitalia of minors” or “force them to get medical testing done.”
Please define an effective transition.
if it makes my dick hard it’s a woman duh
That’s what I was thinking. If she “passes” enough to give OP a funny feeling downstairs.
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Unfortunately trans rights are a hard-sell to the public. And I’m not stating this out of any transphobia or support towards your comment.
A lot of people (especially anybody Gen-X or older) hold transphobic views. It’s one of the big reasons why support for the Scottish National Party fell apart.
“and you have to pay for it when I’m in prison.”
So? The state is liable for all medical expenses? If someone breaks a leg they also have to fix it. And even if you deem mental problem’s differently, other drugs required for a prisoners mental well-being like anti-depressants are also provided.
“You have to let me play sports against biological girls. You can’t make me play sports against boys - it has to be girls”
Would you let a trans boy play in a girls team? Seems rather unfair to me.
Trans women that demand to use the women’s restrooms before they are effectively transitioned.
And? What’s the problem with that? And even if a ciswoman walks into a men’s bathroom, what’s going to happen? The age old tradition of gendered toilets is not some divine ruling that’s going to make the rivers bleed if broken. Unless of course you’re referring to something else, but you wouldn’t do that right?
wokeism will drastically affect fishing season
