Controversy over raw milk reflects the push-pull the Trump administration faces in rolling back regulations and offering consumers more choices. For now, the CDC still recommends against consuming raw milk and the FDA bans its interstate sale.
Back in my country, I drank raw milk my whole life and I’d never had an issue. It was sheep milk, not cow, so it could be different. Literal raw milk straight from the udder to the bowl to my stomach. I’m ok with raw milk as long as it’s coming from what I raise. Not gonna touch it from a bottle at Walmart god knows where it came from and now how much shit it went through. Plus, all these farms owned by huge corporations feed their cattle shit. So, no thanks.
Edit: to clarify a little more for some folks who might have misunderstood my point. Raw milk in and of itself isn’t and shouldn’t be harmful at all. It’s the condition you put the animal in, the food you feed it and the way the milk is being served that kills people. Our animals were never in cages, they roamed in “god’s earth” as some say. They grazed whatever grass came out of the ground and they drank river water. We’d never fed them anything they weren’t supposed to eat. We weren’t in a hurry for a “profit” to sum it up, we were just living normal. So we didn’t have to do shit that would cause chaos. Hope this makes sense. Also, this comment wasn’t meant as political at all, just something I got reminded of when reading the post
there’s also a big difference between drinking minutes old raw milk directly straight out of the teet, vs commercial operations where the milk is a few hours to days old and is bottled with equipment that isn’t perfectly cleaned between each bottle and then consumers sticking it in a fridge for a week. The former is just something farmers are going to do if they want and isn’t really a serious public health concern imo (although still not without risk) and can’t really be regulated away anyway. the latter exposes way more people and is way more dangerous, and that IS able to be regulated out of existence.
Not gonna deny that. It’s a whole different ball game here in the west. Everything is different, and I found it kinda fascinating when I moved here. We were just simple farmers who are very far away from the “city” and that was all we had back then :)
It takes time for the microbes in raw milk to grow to become dangerous. So drinking it on your own farm with your own cow isn’t an issue since there is no time for them to grow. Any processing adds time which gives bacteria more time to grow. For a reference, in ideal conditions E. coli can double its population every 20 minutes.
Although this is anecdotal evidence I think you have a few good points. I’d be willing to let the practice be more common as long as the product stayed local (within the county) and the cows were kept in specific conditions (not shoulder to shoulder 24/7). The data regarding this is very small so I wouldn’t want stuff to start being transported hundreds of miles until there’s some kind of established safety record.
Agreed 100%. And it is 100% anecdotal. Certainly my personal story. Grew up a framer and herded over 400 sheep back home. Had 2 horses and over 10 dogs. We had a huge land (my family still does back there now). That was our main breakfast. Raw milk and home made bread my mother made. Not sure why some folks are upset about it and started downvoting. lol. Other nations and other cultures do exist, and it’s not all just the USA.
Back in my country, I drank raw milk my whole life and I’d never had an issue. It was sheep milk, not cow, so it could be different. Literal raw milk straight from the udder to the bowl to my stomach. I’m ok with raw milk as long as it’s coming from what I raise. Not gonna touch it from a bottle at Walmart god knows where it came from and
nowhow much shit it went through. Plus, all these farms owned by huge corporations feed their cattle shit. So, no thanks.Edit: to clarify a little more for some folks who might have misunderstood my point. Raw milk in and of itself isn’t and shouldn’t be harmful at all. It’s the condition you put the animal in, the food you feed it and the way the milk is being served that kills people. Our animals were never in cages, they roamed in “god’s earth” as some say. They grazed whatever grass came out of the ground and they drank river water. We’d never fed them anything they weren’t supposed to eat. We weren’t in a hurry for a “profit” to sum it up, we were just living normal. So we didn’t have to do shit that would cause chaos. Hope this makes sense. Also, this comment wasn’t meant as political at all, just something I got reminded of when reading the post
there’s also a big difference between drinking minutes old raw milk directly straight out of the teet, vs commercial operations where the milk is a few hours to days old and is bottled with equipment that isn’t perfectly cleaned between each bottle and then consumers sticking it in a fridge for a week. The former is just something farmers are going to do if they want and isn’t really a serious public health concern imo (although still not without risk) and can’t really be regulated away anyway. the latter exposes way more people and is way more dangerous, and that IS able to be regulated out of existence.
Yup, I’m in 100% agreement on that. I couldn’t have said it better. Thank you.
Raw milk is also an active transmission vector for bird flu, which has a mortality rate, by some measures, of about 51%. COVID was about 1 or 2%.
Not gonna deny that. It’s a whole different ball game here in the west. Everything is different, and I found it kinda fascinating when I moved here. We were just simple farmers who are very far away from the “city” and that was all we had back then :)
It takes time for the microbes in raw milk to grow to become dangerous. So drinking it on your own farm with your own cow isn’t an issue since there is no time for them to grow. Any processing adds time which gives bacteria more time to grow. For a reference, in ideal conditions E. coli can double its population every 20 minutes.
Although this is anecdotal evidence I think you have a few good points. I’d be willing to let the practice be more common as long as the product stayed local (within the county) and the cows were kept in specific conditions (not shoulder to shoulder 24/7). The data regarding this is very small so I wouldn’t want stuff to start being transported hundreds of miles until there’s some kind of established safety record.
Agreed 100%. And it is 100% anecdotal. Certainly my personal story. Grew up a framer and herded over 400 sheep back home. Had 2 horses and over 10 dogs. We had a huge land (my family still does back there now). That was our main breakfast. Raw milk and home made bread my mother made. Not sure why some folks are upset about it and started downvoting. lol. Other nations and other cultures do exist, and it’s not all just the USA.