• SapphireSphinx@feddit.org
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    It doesn’t want to answer topics that Lemmy’s most famous China-advocating accounts claim are no problem. Huh

    So what? Every model is censored. That is true for the US based models too. Yes it would be better if all models where completely uncensored but in my use case I don’t spend my day asking questions about Winnie Puuh.

    This is a fantastic model that is open source. It’s even commercially available for free and it is seemingly even better than the proprietary US based ones. It’s much cheaper too.

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      Take your whataboutistic absolutes somewhere else, there are uncensored models and the fact that there is potentially heavy censorship behind the major ones to serve political interests is not a good thing.

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        there are uncensored models.

        Which SOTA models are uncensored? Honest question. I had ChatGPT refusing to answer multiple times. ChatGPT refuses to answers even harmless questions. I tried it just now with a local Llama model: It’s censored too. Sure, they censor different things but they are censored nonetheless.

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        I haven’t downvoted you.

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      There’s a difference between censoring sexual content or how-to-make pipebombs versus politics and free speech mate

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        There’s a difference between censoring sexual content or how-to-make pipebombs versus politics and free speech mate

        Absolutely. But now we are in a discussion about what kind of censorship is ok. That’s not the point. the point was: There are no uncensored SOTA models.

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      What exactly is censored on US models? I was able to ask ChatGPT about government unfriendly things like the Tuskegee syphilis experiments or the Kent state massacre and I got accurate information out of it.

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        I can’t remember exactly what I asked it about so I’m guessing right now. Maybe ask it how to best kill the US president or how to build a bomb to kill as many people as possible? Yes, I agree. Killing the US president is probably worse than talking bad about Xi but it’s censorship nonetheless.

        I think I got some (unfounded) refusals because of something with copyright, if I remember correctly.

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      Yes. Every model has its overlords altering information. It’d be fine if models would be only instructed to avoid harmful content generation on ethical grounds but it’s quite different from being developed to produce fabrications on purpose.