• eldavi@lemmy.ml
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    14 hours ago

    go see the .world version of this in their politics community; even now, when there’s data to prove this they continue to stick their heads in the sand and it makes me scared for the future.

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      14 hours ago

      They’re arrogant, ignorant, and cult like. They also sound exactly like the fascist they claim everyone else is. I guess getting banned from there was more of a blessing than anything. I tried to warn them but they just assumed anyone who dared to question Biden & Kamala were Russian.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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        9 hours ago

        The true failing of liberals does not lie in ignorance, but in their devotion to it. They clutch to it like a security blanket, as if the act of not knowing were a virtue rather than a vice. It is not stupidity, but a wilful, self-satisfied refusal to step out of their bubble, that renders them so insufferable.

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        12 hours ago

        i’m expecting them to ban me as well since i practically spammed that post in the last hour or so.

        Edit: they deleted the post instead. lol

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          12 hours ago

          You folks know that we are “in the same room” as you?

          :P

          I’m glad y’all are here. Lemmy is a small community. I hope we can continue to make this a welcoming place that will attract people away from corporate social media.

          Let’s not make a culture war where there should be a class war.

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            8 hours ago

            You folks know that we are “in the same room” as you?

            honestly i forget most of the time. lol

            there are so many liberals on lemmy, especially on .world that rarely post/comment and it makes me forget that they’re there lurking most of the time so i’m glad you commented; this community could be better by the addition so it more closely mirrors the activity of the other leftists communities.

            my like minded friend is right; an overwhelming majority of liberals exhibit provocative behavior when confronted w their behavior regarding lots of things including the genocide; exactly like the post i was referring to in my comment.

            i was getting meaningful engagement w people who couldn’t/wouldn’t appreciate the gravity of a genocide and it’s impact on the election and i think it helped me understand a little bit more why something so obvious to me wasn’t so obvious to them; then they removed the post simply because it was a substack article on a yougov poll explaining that kamala harris lost the election due to the genocide.

            bieng able to talk about things like this wo the mod who deleted that post having the ability to delete this discourse about it, is what makes lemmy worthwhile; but the class war is going to take a while longer if our somewhat-likeminded friends continue to insist on these provocative behaviors on lemmy.

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              5 hours ago

              That sounds frustrating. Lately I have been trying to think if there is a good way to help promote political discussion in a really constructive way.

              I don’t know your specific situation. I moderate a community and yeah sometimes a post will end up with a lot of aggression in the comments so rather than try to make a lot of nuanced judgement calls I’ll remove the post with an apology to OP.

              I also have made a lot of mistakes. I’m certainly learning a lot about being a better online citizen.

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            9 hours ago

            nobody’s trying to make it a culture war. It just happens that most of .world is happily fighting the class war on behalf of the propertied classes because they have a blue circle with a D in it.

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              8 hours ago

              And much of dot ml will ban you for not bending over for dictators, whereas I would’ve thought those guys are also the enemies of the working class.

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            11 hours ago

            Except you folks are the one that try to make it into a culture war when you banned people that brought up Kamala’s statements on her unconditional support of genocide & her cozying up to neocons like Liz Cheney. Just last week Biden was giving Cheney a medal of honor & named an aircraft carrier after George Bush. If “you folks” want it to be a class war then stop banning people pointing out that it is a class war, while you engage in a culture war.

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              Sorry I wasn’t aware of that situation. Talking about politics on the internet, or in real life for that matter, is tricky to do in a constructive way. Thanks for being in my virtual neighborhood and helping us learn together.